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From: Daniel James on 26 Nov 2008 08:50 In article news:<ggh0c9$i13$1(a)dux.dundee.ac.uk>, Chris wrote: > According to this it is all on one 'card': > http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2008/06/17/inside-the-eeepc-901-investigating-atom/1 Nice article. That shows a "16GB Asus-Samsung SSD module" on the first page, and a "4GB primary SSD" on the second. It's a 20GB machine with 4+16. > Solid state drives are more expensive than your typical flash > card, so the difference is likely to be more. SSDs have faster RAM but don't need a USB interface. I was guessing that they'd be more but not significantly so. It is just a guess, though. Unless Asus are getting their XP licences at an unreasonably large discount I suspect the SSD cost is still less than the XP licence. Cheers, Daniel.
From: Susan Harris on 26 Nov 2008 11:08 Where can one get the 12000mA batteries for 35 quid? "Szymon von Ulezalka" <atavus(a)interia.pl> wrote in message news:dda55413-e04b-4ca1-995d-1333c61cdffd(a)v15g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... > On 24 Lis, 18:12, "Susan Harris" <susanbharris1...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> Was thinking of buying a eePC 901 from PC World, but noticed that the >> Linux >> one is 40 quid more expensive than the XP one! Sure, you get a bigger >> "disk", but that still seems a little weird. >> >> Think the Linux one's will come down in price to match the XP ones soon? > > 1. linux versions use (mostly) a pricer Solid State Disks (ssd) > instead of 'classic' hard disks > 2. in situation when both versions (xp and linux) use ssd- those with > xp have a smaller capacity > > btw, i'd prefer to buy a eeepc1000 version instead of 901- find (on > youtube) the difference between them- 1000 has better keyboard and > screen (its lighter)- unfortunatelly its a bit bigger (but only a > bit). > dont forget about 12000mA batteries (~35quids) :>
From: Ben Bacarisse on 26 Nov 2008 13:34 Szymon von Ulezalka <atavus(a)interia.pl> writes: <snip> > could you paste lsmod and lspci here? My SO has just got one so I can oblige. Here is the putput of lspci for an eeePC 1000 running the Xandros port it comes with (I did not think you'd want -v or -vv but I can post that if it helps): 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02) 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 02) 00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 02) 00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 3 (rev 02) 00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 4 (rev 02) 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02) 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02) 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02) 00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02) 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev e2) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 02) 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7 Family) SATA IDE Controller (rev 02) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 02) 01:00.0 Network controller: RaLink RT2790 Wireless 802.11n PCIe 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Corp. L1e Gigabit Ethernet Adapter (rev b0) And here is the lsmod output: Module Size Used by acpi_cpufreq 5004 0 freq_table 1988 1 acpi_cpufreq usb_storage 22980 0 libusual 6352 1 usb_storage bthid 2176 0 btusb 19780 0 brcm_linux 183496 1 btusb uvcvideo 49288 0 compat_ioctl32 576 1 uvcvideo videodev 23552 1 uvcvideo v4l1_compat 12868 2 uvcvideo,videodev v4l2_common 11200 2 uvcvideo,videodev pciehp 31172 0 pci_hotplug 9672 1 pciehp ehci_hcd 25420 0 uhci_hcd 18636 0 usbhid 13444 0 usbcore 91992 8 usb_storage,libusual,btusb,uvcvideo,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd,usbhid snd_pcm_oss 33568 0 snd_mixer_oss 13056 1 snd_pcm_oss rt2860sta 500312 1 atl1e 26388 0 fuse 34516 0 asus_acpi 6560 0 button 5648 0 processor 19820 1 acpi_cpufreq battery 7940 0 ac 3524 0 autofs4 15876 0 sr_mod 13284 0 cdrom 30624 1 sr_mod snd_hda_intel 284112 0 snd_pcm 50696 2 snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_intel snd_timer 15556 1 snd_pcm snd_page_alloc 6728 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm snd_hwdep 6084 1 snd_hda_intel snd 34852 6 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_hwdep soundcore 3744 1 snd genrtc 6028 0 For comparison, here is the lsmod output when it is booted with the very nicely done Ubuntu 8.04 port (the Ubuntu lspci output shows two devices as unknown 01:00.0 and 04:00.0). Module Size Used by atl1e 36116 0 af_packet 23044 4 i915 31744 3 drm 81556 4 i915 rfcomm 41104 2 l2cap 24832 13 rfcomm ipv6 268292 14 ppdev 9604 0 i2c_i801 9744 0 pciehp 38040 0 acpi_cpufreq 9876 0 cpufreq_userspace 4396 0 cpufreq_stats 6284 0 cpufreq_powersave 1920 0 cpufreq_ondemand 8972 2 freq_table 4744 3 acpi_cpufreq,cpufreq_stats,cpufreq_ondemand cpufreq_conservative 7944 0 sbs 14344 0 sbshc 6912 1 sbs container 4864 0 dock 10512 0 iptable_filter 3072 0 ip_tables 14028 1 iptable_filter x_tables 15364 1 ip_tables parport_pc 35492 0 lp 11556 0 parport 37064 3 ppdev,parport_pc,lp uvcvideo 60040 0 evdev 12160 7 hci_usb 15772 2 compat_ioctl32 1536 1 uvcvideo videodev 28544 1 uvcvideo v4l1_compat 14724 2 uvcvideo,videodev v4l2_common 17664 2 uvcvideo,videodev bluetooth 60388 7 rfcomm,l2cap,hci_usb serio_raw 7172 0 psmouse 44820 0 pcspkr 3456 0 snd_hda_intel 348304 3 rt2860sta 542168 1 snd_pcm_oss 42784 0 snd_mixer_oss 17408 1 snd_pcm_oss iTCO_wdt 12196 0 iTCO_vendor_support 4100 1 iTCO_wdt snd_pcm 79620 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss snd_page_alloc 10504 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm snd_hwdep 9988 1 snd_hda_intel battery 13444 0 snd_seq_dummy 3972 0 video 19088 0 output 3968 1 video ac 6148 0 snd_seq_oss 35072 0 snd_seq_midi 8736 0 snd_rawmidi 25504 1 snd_seq_midi snd_seq_midi_event 7680 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi button 8464 0 eeepc_acpi 7952 0 snd_seq 54608 6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event snd_timer 24452 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq snd_seq_device 8716 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq intel_agp 24724 1 snd 57508 17 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_hwdep,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device shpchp 33428 0 pci_hotplug 14728 2 pciehp,shpchp agpgart 34760 3 drm,intel_agp soundcore 8032 1 snd asus_eee 7620 0 i2c_core 24064 3 i2c_i801,asus_eee ext2 72456 2 mbcache 8704 1 ext2 sg 36240 0 sd_mod 29952 3 pata_acpi 7552 0 ata_piix 18948 2 ata_generic 7556 0 libata 158576 3 pata_acpi,ata_piix,ata_generic ehci_hcd 37388 0 scsi_mod 150796 3 sg,sd_mod,libata uhci_hcd 26256 0 usbcore 145644 5 uvcvideo,hci_usb,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd thermal 16028 0 processor 36672 4 acpi_cpufreq,thermal fan 4868 0 fuse 49812 1 -- Ben.
From: John Stumbles on 26 Nov 2008 16:27 On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 10:11:50 +0000, Geoffrey Clements wrote: > I haven't delved into it that far. Using the tools supplied it can't be > done as it will only let you define one user. I could get a terminal up > (which is available through the file manager) and see what tools are > available. Certainly adduser is not available as I tried that but I > haven't had time to look further. The user home directory is /home/user > no matter what name you give the user so it seems they only expect you > to set up one user. $EDITOR /etc/passwd ? -- John Stumbles Many hands make light work. Too many cooks spoil the broth.
From: Nix on 26 Nov 2008 17:01
On 26 Nov 2008, Ian Rawlings uttered the following: > On 2008-11-25, Nix <nix-razor-pit(a)esperi.org.uk> wrote: > >> You use distros? ;) > > Yes since I got tired of pulling in all the dependencies that modern > packages have, it used to be the case that installing a new package > meant I could create a directory in /usr/local, download the source to > it and compile the package in there, but the library count started to > skyrocket so I ran out of bother. I just wrote my own build system (nearly packaged now, but it's hard to figure out how to preserve user changes across reinstalls when the user can customize virtually every aspect of its behaviour). -- `Not even vi uses vi key bindings for its command line.' --- PdS |