How big is the VO community
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From: Willie Moore on 25 May 2010 11:59 Erik, From my point of view, I really like the way that Grafx is handling things. VO as it is now does everything that I want. I know the workarounds. I think that dotNet is the future and Vulcan has allowed me to take my VO code forward into the future. Regards, Willie __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5144 (20100525) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
From: Marc Verkade [Marti] on 25 May 2010 12:48 AQnd I do not take you serious anymore, Grumpy! "E�!k \/!$$E�" <nospam(a)nospam.com> schreef in bericht news:861ta7FlgqU1(a)mid.individual.net... > Robert, > > The problem is Grafx does not take the VO community serious. > > Erik > > > > > "Robert van der Hulst" <E-55525A53-3803-E(a)heliks.nl> schreef in bericht > news:408493102.20100524222718(a)heliks.nl... >> Hi E�!k, >> On Mon, 24 May 2010, at 09:16:37 [GMT +0200] (which was 9:16 where I >> live) >> you wrote about: 'How big is the VO community' >> >> If you like your new development environment so much, then why do you >> come here >> and act like a troll. >> >> You are probably a 'nobody' in the C# community and used to be 'somebody' >> in the >> VO community. >> >> With posts like this you make your self ridiculous. I do not think anyone >> will >> take you serious anymore in the VO community as well! >> >> >> -- >> Robert van der Hulst >>
From: Marc Verkade [Marti] on 25 May 2010 12:50 You sound like a child that does not like the way his father runs the family. Grow up plz! "E�!k \/!$$E�" <nospam(a)nospam.com> schreef in bericht news:86233aFp9hU1(a)mid.individual.net... > Brian, > >>> The problem is Grafx does not take the VO community serious. >> >> Why would a company that has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars, to >> produce the next generation of Visual Objects. (Vulcan.NET), not take the >> VO >> community serious. > > Why, I do not know, but you do. > > I also do not understand why a company would use lies, half truths and > broken promises as a marketing strategy. > But you do. > > Spending money from the VOPSubscribers!!!! > You never ever spend 50% of the yearly VOPS resources for VO. > And many of VO changes were made only to make VO compatible with Vulcan. > > Erik > > >> >> This is simply another of your long running ridiculous statements. >> >> I'd be more than happy to agree that there are a few people on this forum >> that have given, "just cause" to be ignored. >> >> Brian >> >> Product Owner Vulcan.NET >> Product Owner Visual Objects. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> On Mon, 24 May 2010, at 09:16:37 [GMT +0200] (which was 9:16 where I >>>> live) >>>> you wrote about: 'How big is the VO community' >>>> >>>> If you like your new development environment so much, then why do you >>>> come here >>>> and act like a troll. >>>> >>>> You are probably a 'nobody' in the C# community and used to be >>>> 'somebody' >>>> in the >>>> VO community. >>>> >>>> With posts like this you make your self ridiculous. I do not think >>>> anyone >>>> will >>>> take you serious anymore in the VO community as well! >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Robert van der Hulst >>>> >>
From: Geoff Schaller on 25 May 2010 18:51 Willie. The problem is that your statement is not reality. You may be comfortable with VO the way it is but most people were not. Change that. Most people are not. Brian promised a lot of things for VO and never delivered - starting with the last VO conference back in Nuremburg. You were there. And then after Herzbruk was the promise that the VOPS would be split 50:50 between VO and Vulcan and that Vulcan would be ready in about 12 months. Well, no to both. Now Brian has stated quite clearly that VOPS = Vulcan and that VO is basically cactus. I personally have adjusted to that and I make do with extensions in C# relegated to my VO app through COM but it is specious of you to suggest that VO is good enough. It isn't. And Robert added new bugs with SP3 that should have been fixed for free. It is that stand and attitude that is behind what I think Erik is feeling. GrafX has not treated us well. Geoff "Willie Moore" <williem(a)wmconsulting.com> wrote in message news:htgs5l$i0d$1(a)speranza.aioe.org: > Erik, > > From my point of view, I really like the way that Grafx is handling > things. VO as it is now does everything that I want. I know the > workarounds. I think that dotNet is the future and Vulcan has allowed me > to take my VO code forward into the future. > > Regards, > Willie > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 5144 (20100525) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com
From: Carlos Rocha on 26 May 2010 17:48
Hi, I usually keep myself away from this kind of threads, but this doesn't mean I don't care. I do. I simply learned that they don't get you anywhere, because everybody has some reason, depending on the point of view. Because I love VO the move to Vulcan is a possibility, but I believe Vulcan would have a greater future if VO didn't die in an unfinished state, as it did. People are moving away because VO is now (partially) unsupported, and this is a fact. -- Carlos Rocha |