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From: Leythos on 2 Apr 2010 18:11 In article <#6pl1oq0KHA.4204(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, russval(a)mvps.org says... > > No one ever said you corrupted a PST file, but you most certainly lost data. > The luck was that it was data you happened not to need, such as Rules and > Distribution Lists and links to Contacts and links to the Calendar and the > links to the address book view. Others may want to preserve that information > in their next installation. Um, if you're smart enough to export the PST, why not be smart enough to export the rules? All of my distribution lists export and import properly.... > Exporting and importing the entire PST file to populate a new installation > is simply a bad practice that should not be recommended. -- You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that. Trust yourself. spam999free(a)rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
From: Russ Valentine on 2 Apr 2010 19:06 You appear to have some pressing need to validate and defend your own experience. That experience is anecdote and should be recognized as such for the benefit of other readers of this thread. The experience of many is far more valid than the experience of one. In this newsgroup over the last 12 years we have confirmed that the following information is not transferred when you export and import a PST file: 1. Custom Forms 2. Custom Views 3. Connections between contacts and activities 4. Received dates on mail 5. Birthdays and anniversaries in calendar 6. Journal connections 7. Distribution Lists 8. Rules 9. Link between Contacts and the address book view, which cannot be re-established until a new profile is created and the data migrated properly. If none of that information is important, then sure you can export and import. Why you would want to remains a mystery, however, since simply copying and opening the PST file is much easier and preserves all of the above information. The cardinal rule when providing advice in these groups is primum non nocere. Your insistence that export and import is the best way to transfer Outlook data to a new installation violates that rule. Readers of this thread should know that so they can make up their own mind on what they want to do. This is a public newsgroup. Your opinion is welcome but needs to be placed into context. -- Russ Valentine "Leythos" <spam999free(a)rrohio.com> wrote in message news:MPG.26203590d3f5771c98a25b(a)us.news.astraweb.com... > In article <#6pl1oq0KHA.4204(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, russval(a)mvps.org > says... >> >> No one ever said you corrupted a PST file, but you most certainly lost >> data. >> The luck was that it was data you happened not to need, such as Rules and >> Distribution Lists and links to Contacts and links to the Calendar and >> the >> links to the address book view. Others may want to preserve that >> information >> in their next installation. > > Um, if you're smart enough to export the PST, why not be smart enough to > export the rules? > > All of my distribution lists export and import properly.... > >> Exporting and importing the entire PST file to populate a new >> installation >> is simply a bad practice that should not be recommended. > > > > -- > You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little > voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that. > Trust yourself. > spam999free(a)rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
From: Leythos on 2 Apr 2010 19:17 In article <#WNHUkr0KHA.2196(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, russval(a)mvps.org says... > > You appear to have some pressing need to validate and defend your own > experience. That experience is anecdote and should be recognized as such for > the benefit of other readers of this thread. > The experience of many is far more valid than the experience of one. In > this newsgroup over the last 12 years we have confirmed that the following > information is not transferred when you export and import a PST file: > 1. Custom Forms > 2. Custom Views Never tried, don't have any myself and don't have any customers with custom forms and views and I'm betting that 90% of people out there don't either. > 3. Connections between contacts and activities What activities? > 4. Received dates on mail Sorry, I see the date the email was received on every email that is imported from a PST. Don't know how you are missing it - please try it yourself. > 5. Birthdays and anniversaries in calendar All calendar items, appointments, such as Birth days, Anniversaries, that I've entered or customers have entered, are imported fine. > 6. Journal connections Don't know anyone that uses this, so I can't comment. > 7. Distribution Lists Distro lists, as in ones created in Outlook, in your contacts folder, are also imported properly, worked fine since Office XP that I know of. > 8. Rules This is misleading as the Rules are not exported in a PST, Outlook includes a function to export rules and they import just fine. > 9. Link between Contacts and the address book view, which cannot be > re-established until a new profile is created and the data migrated > properly. Never seen or tried this, switching VIEW modes in contacts shows all contacts in the different views. > If none of that information is important, then sure you can export and > import. Why you would want to remains a mystery, however, since simply > copying and opening the PST file is much easier and preserves all of the > above information. You've listed a lot of things that are incorrect for an export/import between different versions as well as from/to the same version. > The cardinal rule when providing advice in these groups is primum non > nocere. Your insistence that export and import is the best way to transfer > Outlook data to a new installation violates that rule. Readers of this > thread should know that so they can make up their own mind on what they want > to do. This is a public newsgroup. Your opinion is welcome but needs to be > placed into context. I have not insisted that Export/Import is the best anything, I've only disputed what I've seen as incorrect. I don't maintain that either is BEST, but I suggest you try each of the above items you list and come back and let us know you were wrong. -- You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that. Trust yourself. spam999free(a)rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
From: Russ Valentine on 2 Apr 2010 20:59 As I said, your opinion has been duly noted. Your reply certainly explains why you are confused and more than a little behind the times: 1. In fact, rules do transfer with the PST file. Exporting Rules separately is no longer necessary. 2. Date modified is the relevant field for emails. It is changed by importing. 3. Since you don't know what Activities are, they are links to other Outlook Items for any given Contact Record within an information store. They are broken when you export and import. 4. Appointments are imported, but they lose their connection to the Calendar view when you import a PST file. 5. You appear to have no idea what the Outlook Address Book is. It is not just another of the standard views of the Contacts Folder. It is a separate MAPI view of electronic addresses pulled from the Contacts Folder. Users rely upon it heavily when sending messages. It is irreparably broken when you import a PST file. I've wasted far more time in this reply than I have available. Believe whatever you want. Just don't lead other users astray.Let the end users decide for themselves what they want to do. Thank you for contributing your opinion to the discussion. -- Russ Valentine "Leythos" <spam999free(a)rrohio.com> wrote in message news:MPG.262044fe5fd9562898a25d(a)us.news.astraweb.com... > In article <#WNHUkr0KHA.2196(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, russval(a)mvps.org > says... >> >> You appear to have some pressing need to validate and defend your own >> experience. That experience is anecdote and should be recognized as such >> for >> the benefit of other readers of this thread. >> The experience of many is far more valid than the experience of one. In >> this newsgroup over the last 12 years we have confirmed that the >> following >> information is not transferred when you export and import a PST file: >> 1. Custom Forms >> 2. Custom Views > > Never tried, don't have any myself and don't have any customers with > custom forms and views and I'm betting that 90% of people out there > don't either. > >> 3. Connections between contacts and activities > > What activities? > >> 4. Received dates on mail > > Sorry, I see the date the email was received on every email that is > imported from a PST. Don't know how you are missing it - please try it > yourself. > >> 5. Birthdays and anniversaries in calendar > > All calendar items, appointments, such as Birth days, Anniversaries, > that I've entered or customers have entered, are imported fine. > >> 6. Journal connections > > Don't know anyone that uses this, so I can't comment. > >> 7. Distribution Lists > > Distro lists, as in ones created in Outlook, in your contacts folder, > are also imported properly, worked fine since Office XP that I know of. > >> 8. Rules > > This is misleading as the Rules are not exported in a PST, Outlook > includes a function to export rules and they import just fine. > >> 9. Link between Contacts and the address book view, which cannot be >> re-established until a new profile is created and the data migrated >> properly. > > Never seen or tried this, switching VIEW modes in contacts shows all > contacts in the different views. > >> If none of that information is important, then sure you can export and >> import. Why you would want to remains a mystery, however, since simply >> copying and opening the PST file is much easier and preserves all of the >> above information. > > You've listed a lot of things that are incorrect for an export/import > between different versions as well as from/to the same version. > >> The cardinal rule when providing advice in these groups is primum non >> nocere. Your insistence that export and import is the best way to >> transfer >> Outlook data to a new installation violates that rule. Readers of this >> thread should know that so they can make up their own mind on what they >> want >> to do. This is a public newsgroup. Your opinion is welcome but needs to >> be >> placed into context. > > I have not insisted that Export/Import is the best anything, I've only > disputed what I've seen as incorrect. I don't maintain that either is > BEST, but I suggest you try each of the above items you list and come > back and let us know you were wrong. > > > -- > You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little > voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that. > Trust yourself. > spam999free(a)rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
From: Diane Poremsky [MVP] on 2 Apr 2010 21:12
>> 1. Custom Forms >> 2. Custom Views > > Never tried, don't have any myself and don't have any customers with > custom forms and views and I'm betting that 90% of people out there > don't either. Not sure it's 90% but it is high. > >> 3. Connections between contacts and activities > > What activities? When you open a contact and look on the Activity page, linked appointments, tasks etc are listed. After import, only mail is listed. >> 4. Received dates on mail > > Sorry, I see the date the email was received on every email that is > imported from a PST. Don't know how you are missing it - please try it > yourself. I've only seen the modified date changed when importing from a pst. Importing from OE screws the date up. > >> 5. Birthdays and anniversaries in calendar > > All calendar items, appointments, such as Birth days, Anniversaries, > that I've entered or customers have entered, are imported fine. When you enter a contact's birthdate, outlook creates an event on your calendar. Import breaks this and the next time you edit the contact it creates a new birthday event. >> 6. Journal connections > > Don't know anyone that uses this, so I can't comment. This belongs up with custom views and forms... its not a popular feature. :) >> 7. Distribution Lists > > Distro lists, as in ones created in Outlook, in your contacts folder, > are also imported properly, worked fine since Office XP that I know of. I've never had a problem with Contact DLs - PAB and WAB DLs are screwed up. > >> 8. Rules > > This is misleading as the Rules are not exported in a PST, Outlook > includes a function to export rules and they import just fine. Beginning with either 2003 or 2007, rules are stored in the pst. Open a pst in a new profile and you've got your rules. > >> 9. Link between Contacts and the address book view, which cannot be >> re-established until a new profile is created and the data migrated >> properly. > > Never seen or tried this, switching VIEW modes in contacts shows all > contacts in the different views. When you hit To while composing mail, imported contacts may not be listed. |