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From: Tim Chase on 3 Jun 2010 08:29 On 06/03/2010 07:16 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: >>> Most people use this list via e-mail... >> Do you know this to be the case, or is that a guess? > > Scan through a bunch of threads with show-headers. Watch the User-Agent > value (set by the senders client). The results become obvious pretty > quickly. It can be a bit misleading though -- some UAs allow you to read both mail & nntp with the same interface (e.g., my Thunderbird UA). I read via gmane's nntp, but it's a "mail" program. I'd likely return to reading via email if TB allowed me to kill threads & sub-threads in email like it does in newsgroups. -tkc
From: Paul Rudin on 3 Jun 2010 08:42 Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam(a)whitemice.org> writes: > On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 12:35 +0100, Paul Rudin wrote: >> Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam(a)whitemice.org> writes: >> > Most people use this list via e-mail... >> Do you know this to be the case, or is that a guess? > > Scan through a bunch of threads with show-headers. Watch the User-Agent > value (set by the senders client). The results become obvious pretty > quickly. > > And it is generally interesting to see the User-Agent mix of a given > group of users. So... by that criteria do you count me as email reader or nntp reader? Gnus fills in the user-agent field just the same in either case.
From: Adam Tauno Williams on 3 Jun 2010 08:50 On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 13:42 +0100, Paul Rudin wrote: > Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam(a)whitemice.org> writes: > > On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 12:35 +0100, Paul Rudin wrote: > >> Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam(a)whitemice.org> writes: > >> > Most people use this list via e-mail... > >> Do you know this to be the case, or is that a guess > > Scan through a bunch of threads with show-headers. Watch the User-Agent > > value (set by the senders client). The results become obvious pretty > > quickly. > > And it is generally interesting to see the User-Agent mix of a given > > group of users. > So... by that criteria do you count me as email reader or nntp reader? NNTP > Gnus fills in the user-agent field just the same in either case. Sure. But Thunderbird, Horde, Squirrel, Google/GMail, Evolution, and Outlook/OWA are *not* NNTP agents. -- Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam(a)whitemice.org> LPIC-1, Novell CLA <http://www.whitemiceconsulting.com> OpenGroupware, Cyrus IMAPd, Postfix, OpenLDAP, Samba
From: Grant Edwards on 3 Jun 2010 09:08 On 2010-06-03, News123 <news1234(a)free.fr> wrote: > pyDev wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I would like to let the community know that there is a new web-based >> forum for Python enthusiasts over at PythonForum.org (http:// >> pythonforum.org). Web-based forums is a preferred method by Python >> newcomers to get help in exploring the world of Python and programming >> overall. The main goal of PythonForum.org is to popularize Python by >> welcoming all newcomers. Recently the forum got "attacked" with >> questions by users just starting out with Python. I hope here will be >> someone ready to welcome and help newcomers to enter the beautiful >> world of Python. >> > > I fully agree with the feedback, that creating a new forum is not such > an excellent idea. currently the critical mass seems to be here and I > appreciate this a lot. > > However, whether we like it or not: > Fewer and fewer newcomers are willing, knowledgable, aware of nntp > > If you think, that newbies are unlikely to use nntp, then create a > forum, web front end or whatever, which looks very nice and cool, which > will automatically relay messages (forward and backward) to this group. You mean like this? http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.general > In my opinion new forums should integrate nntp and not try to replace > it. > > An nntp gateway on just another server is also not as nice as just > communicating with the existing feeds. I'm don't know what "communicating with the existing feeds" means. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards Yow! Oh my GOD -- the at SUN just fell into YANKEE gmail.com STADIUM!!
From: Grant Edwards on 3 Jun 2010 09:09
On 2010-06-03, Martin P. Hellwig <martin.hellwig(a)dcuktec.org> wrote: > On 06/03/10 12:46, Michele Simionato wrote: >> On Jun 3, 12:28 pm, "Martin P. Hellwig"<martin.hell...(a)dcuktec.org> >> wrote: >>> On the other hand it might not be so bad that you don't get questions >>> from users here who are unable to use a nntp reader or news to mail service. >> >> I am unable to use a nntp reader or news to mail service. I use the >> Google Groups interface and I am happy with it. > > Good for you, just a shame that quite a bit of the regulars here ignore > anything that comes from google groups, It's sad that Google won't clean up its act with respect to facilitating spamming, but ignore posts from Google Groups has cut the spam down to almost 0. > not me though, I just mentally ignore posts. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards Yow! All this time I've at been VIEWING a RUSSIAN gmail.com MIDGET SODOMIZE a HOUSECAT! |