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From: Bill in Co on 10 Jul 2010 00:37 milt wrote: > On 7/9/2010 7:07 PM, Twayne wrote: >> A condescengingly ignorant and misinformationist reply to a legitimate >> question posed by a legitimate user. Ol' Brucey here respects little but >> himself. Just ignore. >> > > Actually, I'm starting to think YOU are the one that needs to be > ignored. They gave a perfectly legit answer with REAL info. all you are > doing is trying to shoot it down without telling this person how to fix > their issue. Then again, you act like cleaning the registry is needed > when there is tons of evidence to the contrary. I think Twayne feels it's needed - just like an oil change for your car. Now you wouldn't drive a car 20,000 miles without an oil change, would you? :-)
From: Bill in Co on 10 Jul 2010 00:45 milt wrote: > On 7/9/2010 7:01 PM, Twayne wrote: >> In news:uSlFHcwHLHA.5700(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl, >> Bruce Chambers<bchambers(a)cable0ne.n3t> typed: >>> Peter wrote: >>>> >>>> You can try CCleaner at http://www.ccleaner.com/ Be sure >>>> and make a back up before fixing anything and run it THREE >>>> times to catch everything. >>> >>> >>> CCleaner's only strength, and the only reason anyone >>> should use it, lies in its usefulness for cleaning up >>> unused temporary files from the hard drive. It differs >>> from the native Windows tool in that it allows more >>> granular control and you can specify which folders you want >>> scanned. For instance, WinXP's disk cleaner will examine >>> only the profile folders of the user who is running the >>> utility. On a single-user machine, this is fine, but on a >>> family or other mult-use machine, the ability to clean >>> temorary files from all of the user profiles at once is a >>> great time saver. >>> It's registry cleaner, however, is worthless. I've >>> tested the most recent recent version (with all updates) >>> version on a brand-new OS installation with no additional >>> applications installed, and certainly none installed and >>> then uninstalled, and CCleaner still managed to "find" over >>> a hundred allegedly orphaned registry entries and dozens of >>> purportedly "suspicious" files, making it clearly a >>> *worthless* product, in this regard. (Not that any >>> registry cleaner can ever be anything but worthless, as >>> they don't serve any *useful* purpose, to start with.) >> >> Neat; a product provides you with information about the contents of your >> registry, so you call it worthless. Now there's a piece of real advice!! >> Yup, you sure proved it here, didn't you? lol, so pathetic! >> >> > > Yeah it provided him FALSE information! How could there be tons of > registry problems with a freshly installed system? He has already said that it was due to their own misuse - ALL of them. (Only gifted people are able to use them "properly", as he can. Everybody else reporting such problems are clueless, and need his enlightenment. :-). > Are you a shill for some company that makes registry cleaners? That has never been acknowledged, as far as I can recall.. Then again, judging by all his past comments, he clearly doesn't have the technical expertise to write such code, so the answer is evidently "no".
From: Bill in Co on 10 Jul 2010 00:54 milt wrote: > On 7/8/2010 10:09 AM, Barbara wrote: >> Unable to find any specific category for a registry question so am >> posting >> the question here. The registry on the computer needs to be cleaned. >> Most >> of the errors I am getting are related to registry problems. I am not >> computer knowledgeable to clean the registry manually. I wonder if >> someone >> could suggest a good, reliable and trustworthy registry cleaner software >> and that would not be too expensive. Thanks! > > No, your registry does NOT need to be cleaned, where did you get this > idea from? Your registry NEVER needs to be cleaned, compacted or messed > with in ANY way. To do so risks making your computer unbootable True enough, in the worst case scenario. (But usually it's not quite that bad, but problems can and DO show up later, with certain programs having issues, or windows itself having some issuesor glitches. And by then it's too late to know what registry extraction specifically caused it!). > and has ZERO benefits. Agreed - for the most part, and with very few exceptions (those in the hands of someone doing some *manual* edits (in regedit), for some very specific desired modification).
From: a on 10 Jul 2010 08:07 "Twayne" <nobody(a)devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message news:i18da8$7ms$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > In news:4c37154d$1(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au, > a <b(a)invalid.com> typed: >> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers(a)cable0ne.n3t> wrote >> >>> It's registry cleaner, however, is worthless. I've >>> tested the most recent recent version (with all updates) >>> version on a brand-new OS installation with no additional >>> applications installed, and certainly none installed and >>> then uninstalled, and CCleaner still managed to "find" >>> over a hundred allegedly orphaned registry entries and >>> dozens of purportedly "suspicious" files, making it >>> clearly a *worthless* product, in this regard. >> >> Interesting! My Dad swears by CCleaner, even though I've >> told him it's just a placebo. > > Clearly your Dad is smarter than you are. And more realistic and i'll bet a much more open mind also. If CCleaner can find "suspicious" files on a clean Windows install, then how is that not a placebo effect? And you know what they say above having an open mind... it lets your brain fall out.
From: Eddie on 10 Jul 2010 09:31
PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: > If you ever think your Registry needs to be cleaned, repaired, boosted, > tuned-up, cured, tweaked, fixed, or optimized (it doesn't), read > http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 and draw your own conclusions. Hi Pa, I have followed and respected your replies to posts for years, and also your affiliation toward ms products. I do have a question though regarding this thread, but first, an excerpt from the link you posted re: O/P. ------\/ "Microsoft has a freebie online program at http://onecare.live.com/site/en-us/default.htm. Being the Godfather's program it should be safe....theoretically. It didn't do me any harm. I strongly recommend that you, or anyone else, avoid using the onecare registry cleaner Here's why: The onecare cleaner offers no chance to backup what is removed and whatever it removes is gone, forever. Should it mistakenly remove a key or value needed by your operating system or software it's gone along with your program or operating system. I've seen onecare's registry cleaner completely hose systems." ------ My question is: WHY did Bill/Micro allow this program to be written in the first place? Why are ppl saying to Avoid it at all costs? (yet it is written by M/S) Lastly, and again, .. why did micro put it out there for all to see Knowing Full Well that NO registry cleaner works at all.. and especially considering each persons computer is different due to d/loads and software and blah blah. Dunno Pa, registry stuff is all too confusing when it comes to cleaners, especially considering ms put one out too. (I would never consider using one myself,; but for ppl not-in-the-know, and not knowing that n/g's exist, I offer my heart-felt sympathy to them.)(also, yes, ccleaner is mickey-mouse at doing other stuff, its the bees knees as far as I'm concerned... not to mention you can at Least see reg' stuff that it thinks is an issue; this too can be helpful.) What do you reckon? Ed |