From: mpc755 on
On Apr 24, 2:29 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 24, 12:06 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 24, 9:51 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear PD, the Parasite Dunce:  The big difference between us is that I
> > acknowledge TRUTHS where those be found.  You, on the other hand,
> > attack the truths wherever they be found, probably because TRUTHS
> > invalidate much of what you were taught was high-and-mighty in
> > school.  Have fun defending the ‘errors in science’ to your grave,
> > PD.  — No Einstein —
>
> Well, it appears that we are just acknowledging different statements
> as truth. You maintain yours are.
> I maintain the ones that are supported by experimental evidence and
> aren't merely the result of just "thinking about things" are the
> truth.
> So, when there is a conflict between experimental evidence and the
> result of just "thinking about things," then one or the other needs to
> be acknowledged and the other dismissed. I think I've chosen properly,
> and I think you've chosen out of ego.
>

Believing the future determines the past needs to be dismissed.

Explain how what you choose to believe occurs physically in nature:

- The future determining the past
- Virtual particles which exist out of nothing
- Conservation of momentum does not apply to a downgraded photon pair
- A C-60 molecule can enter, travel through, and exit multiple slits
simultaneously without requiring energy, releasing energy, or having
a change in momentum.
- Matter causes physical space to be 'unflat' but not move
- Michelson's "aether displacement to the electric current" is
different than Maxwell's displacement current
- Mass is not conserved.

The following are the most correct physical explanations to date:

- A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate
aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits
- The aether displaced by the matter which are the plates extends
past the other plate. The pressure exerted by the aether displaced
by the plates forces the plates together
- Conservation of momentum does apply to a downgraded photon pair.
When a photon is detected its wave collapses which determines its
spin. In order for the original photons momentum to be conserved,
the downgraded photon pair have opposite angular momentums.
- A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate
aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits
- Physical space is displaced by matter. Aether is displaced by
matter.
- Michelson's "aether displacement to the electric current" is the
same conceptually as Maxwell's displacement current.
- Matter and aether are different states of the same material.
In E=mc^2, Energy is matter transitioning to aether.
Mass is conserved.
From: PD on
On Apr 24, 1:41 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 24, 2:29 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 24, 12:06 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 24, 9:51 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Dear PD, the Parasite Dunce:  The big difference between us is that I
> > > acknowledge TRUTHS where those be found.  You, on the other hand,
> > > attack the truths wherever they be found, probably because TRUTHS
> > > invalidate much of what you were taught was high-and-mighty in
> > > school.  Have fun defending the ‘errors in science’ to your grave,
> > > PD.  — No Einstein —
>
> > Well, it appears that we are just acknowledging different statements
> > as truth. You maintain yours are.
> > I maintain the ones that are supported by experimental evidence and
> > aren't merely the result of just "thinking about things" are the
> > truth.
> > So, when there is a conflict between experimental evidence and the
> > result of just "thinking about things," then one or the other needs to
> > be acknowledged and the other dismissed. I think I've chosen properly,
> > and I think you've chosen out of ego.
>
> Believing the future determines the past needs to be dismissed.

Why does it need to be dismissed? Because you personally believe it is
not a permissible notion?

>
> Explain how what you choose to believe occurs physically in nature:
>
> - The future determining the past
> - Virtual particles which exist out of nothing
> - Conservation of momentum does not apply to a downgraded photon pair
> - A C-60 molecule can enter, travel through, and exit multiple slits
>   simultaneously without requiring energy, releasing energy, or having
>   a change in momentum.
> - Matter causes physical space to be 'unflat' but not move
> - Michelson's "aether displacement to the electric current" is
>   different than Maxwell's displacement current
> - Mass is not conserved.
>
> The following are the most correct physical explanations to date:
>
> - A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate
>   aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits
> - The aether displaced by the matter which are the plates extends
>   past the other plate. The pressure exerted by the aether displaced
>   by the plates forces the plates together
> - Conservation of momentum does apply to a downgraded photon pair.
>   When a photon is detected its wave collapses which determines its
>   spin. In order for the original photons momentum to be conserved,
>   the downgraded photon pair have opposite angular momentums.
> - A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate
>   aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits
> - Physical space is displaced by matter. Aether is displaced by
>   matter.
> - Michelson's "aether displacement to the electric current" is the
>   same conceptually as Maxwell's displacement current.
> - Matter and aether are different states of the same material.
>   In E=mc^2, Energy is matter transitioning to aether.
>   Mass is conserved.

From: PD on
On Apr 24, 1:41 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 24, 2:29 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 24, 12:06 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 24, 9:51 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Dear PD, the Parasite Dunce:  The big difference between us is that I
> > > acknowledge TRUTHS where those be found.  You, on the other hand,
> > > attack the truths wherever they be found, probably because TRUTHS
> > > invalidate much of what you were taught was high-and-mighty in
> > > school.  Have fun defending the ‘errors in science’ to your grave,
> > > PD.  — No Einstein —
>
> > Well, it appears that we are just acknowledging different statements
> > as truth. You maintain yours are.
> > I maintain the ones that are supported by experimental evidence and
> > aren't merely the result of just "thinking about things" are the
> > truth.
> > So, when there is a conflict between experimental evidence and the
> > result of just "thinking about things," then one or the other needs to
> > be acknowledged and the other dismissed. I think I've chosen properly,
> > and I think you've chosen out of ego.
>
> Believing the future determines the past needs to be dismissed.
>
> Explain how what you choose to believe occurs physically in nature:
>
> - The future determining the past
> - Virtual particles which exist out of nothing
> - Conservation of momentum does not apply to a downgraded photon pair
> - A C-60 molecule can enter, travel through, and exit multiple slits
>   simultaneously without requiring energy, releasing energy, or having
>   a change in momentum.
> - Matter causes physical space to be 'unflat' but not move
> - Michelson's "aether displacement to the electric current" is
>   different than Maxwell's displacement current
> - Mass is not conserved.
>
> The following are the most correct physical explanations to date:
>
> - A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate
>   aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits
> - The aether displaced by the matter which are the plates extends
>   past the other plate. The pressure exerted by the aether displaced
>   by the plates forces the plates together
> - Conservation of momentum does apply to a downgraded photon pair.
>   When a photon is detected its wave collapses which determines its
>   spin. In order for the original photons momentum to be conserved,
>   the downgraded photon pair have opposite angular momentums.
> - A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate
>   aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits
> - Physical space is displaced by matter. Aether is displaced by
>   matter.
> - Michelson's "aether displacement to the electric current" is the
>   same conceptually as Maxwell's displacement current.
> - Matter and aether are different states of the same material.
>   In E=mc^2, Energy is matter transitioning to aether.
>   Mass is conserved.

Let me see if I can summarize your position:
1. That which MPC personally does not believe must be dismissed.
2. That which MPC does not receive a convincing argument or
explanation of must be dismissed.
3. Unless MPC is taught in the fashion he demands, for free and on
usenet where he demands it, it must be wrong.
From: mpc755 on
On Apr 24, 8:04 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 24, 1:41 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 24, 2:29 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 24, 12:06 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 24, 9:51 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Dear PD, the Parasite Dunce:  The big difference between us is that I
> > > > acknowledge TRUTHS where those be found.  You, on the other hand,
> > > > attack the truths wherever they be found, probably because TRUTHS
> > > > invalidate much of what you were taught was high-and-mighty in
> > > > school.  Have fun defending the ‘errors in science’ to your grave,
> > > > PD.  — No Einstein —
>
> > > Well, it appears that we are just acknowledging different statements
> > > as truth. You maintain yours are.
> > > I maintain the ones that are supported by experimental evidence and
> > > aren't merely the result of just "thinking about things" are the
> > > truth.
> > > So, when there is a conflict between experimental evidence and the
> > > result of just "thinking about things," then one or the other needs to
> > > be acknowledged and the other dismissed. I think I've chosen properly,
> > > and I think you've chosen out of ego.
>
> > Believing the future determines the past needs to be dismissed.
>
> Why does it need to be dismissed? Because you personally believe it is
> not a permissible notion?
>

Because you can not answer any of the following. If you can't explain
what occurs physically in nature to support your belief then that is
dogma:

Explain how what you choose to believe occurs physically in nature:

- The future determining the past
- Virtual particles which exist out of nothing
- Conservation of momentum does not apply to a downgraded photon pair
- A C-60 molecule can enter, travel through, and exit multiple slits
simultaneously without requiring energy, releasing energy, or having
a change in momentum.
- Matter causes physical space to be 'unflat' but not move
- Michelson's "aether displacement to the electric current" is
different than Maxwell's displacement current
- Mass is not conserved.

The following are the most correct physical explanations to date:

- A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate
aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits
- The aether displaced by the matter which are the plates extends
past the other plate. The pressure exerted by the aether displaced
by the plates forces the plates together
- Conservation of momentum does apply to a downgraded photon pair.
When a photon is detected its wave collapses which determines its
spin. In order for the original photons momentum to be conserved,
the downgraded photon pair have opposite angular momentums.
- A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate
aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits
- Physical space is displaced by matter. Aether is displaced by
matter.
- Michelson's "aether displacement to the electric current" is the
same conceptually as Maxwell's displacement current.
- Matter and aether are different states of the same material.
In E=mc^2, Energy is matter transitioning to aether.
Mass is conserved.

>
>
> > Explain how what you choose to believe occurs physically in nature:
>
> > - The future determining the past
> > - Virtual particles which exist out of nothing
> > - Conservation of momentum does not apply to a downgraded photon pair
> > - A C-60 molecule can enter, travel through, and exit multiple slits
> >   simultaneously without requiring energy, releasing energy, or having
> >   a change in momentum.
> > - Matter causes physical space to be 'unflat' but not move
> > - Michelson's "aether displacement to the electric current" is
> >   different than Maxwell's displacement current
> > - Mass is not conserved.
>
> > The following are the most correct physical explanations to date:
>
> > - A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate
> >   aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits
> > - The aether displaced by the matter which are the plates extends
> >   past the other plate. The pressure exerted by the aether displaced
> >   by the plates forces the plates together
> > - Conservation of momentum does apply to a downgraded photon pair.
> >   When a photon is detected its wave collapses which determines its
> >   spin. In order for the original photons momentum to be conserved,
> >   the downgraded photon pair have opposite angular momentums.
> > - A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate
> >   aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits
> > - Physical space is displaced by matter. Aether is displaced by
> >   matter.
> > - Michelson's "aether displacement to the electric current" is the
> >   same conceptually as Maxwell's displacement current.
> > - Matter and aether are different states of the same material.
> >   In E=mc^2, Energy is matter transitioning to aether.
> >   Mass is conserved.
>
>

From: mpc755 on
On Apr 24, 8:27 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 24, 1:41 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 24, 2:29 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 24, 12:06 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 24, 9:51 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Dear PD, the Parasite Dunce:  The big difference between us is that I
> > > > acknowledge TRUTHS where those be found.  You, on the other hand,
> > > > attack the truths wherever they be found, probably because TRUTHS
> > > > invalidate much of what you were taught was high-and-mighty in
> > > > school.  Have fun defending the ‘errors in science’ to your grave,
> > > > PD.  — No Einstein —
>
> > > Well, it appears that we are just acknowledging different statements
> > > as truth. You maintain yours are.
> > > I maintain the ones that are supported by experimental evidence and
> > > aren't merely the result of just "thinking about things" are the
> > > truth.
> > > So, when there is a conflict between experimental evidence and the
> > > result of just "thinking about things," then one or the other needs to
> > > be acknowledged and the other dismissed. I think I've chosen properly,
> > > and I think you've chosen out of ego.
>
> > Believing the future determines the past needs to be dismissed.
>
> > Explain how what you choose to believe occurs physically in nature:
>
> > - The future determining the past
> > - Virtual particles which exist out of nothing
> > - Conservation of momentum does not apply to a downgraded photon pair
> > - A C-60 molecule can enter, travel through, and exit multiple slits
> >   simultaneously without requiring energy, releasing energy, or having
> >   a change in momentum.
> > - Matter causes physical space to be 'unflat' but not move
> > - Michelson's "aether displacement to the electric current" is
> >   different than Maxwell's displacement current
> > - Mass is not conserved.
>
> > The following are the most correct physical explanations to date:
>
> > - A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate
> >   aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits
> > - The aether displaced by the matter which are the plates extends
> >   past the other plate. The pressure exerted by the aether displaced
> >   by the plates forces the plates together
> > - Conservation of momentum does apply to a downgraded photon pair.
> >   When a photon is detected its wave collapses which determines its
> >   spin. In order for the original photons momentum to be conserved,
> >   the downgraded photon pair have opposite angular momentums.
> > - A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate
> >   aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits
> > - Physical space is displaced by matter. Aether is displaced by
> >   matter.
> > - Michelson's "aether displacement to the electric current" is the
> >   same conceptually as Maxwell's displacement current.
> > - Matter and aether are different states of the same material.
> >   In E=mc^2, Energy is matter transitioning to aether.
> >   Mass is conserved.
>
> Let me see if I can summarize your position:
> 1. That which MPC personally does not believe must be dismissed.
> 2. That which MPC does not receive a convincing argument or
> explanation of must be dismissed.
> 3. Unless MPC is taught in the fashion he demands, for free and on
> usenet where he demands it, it must be wrong.

What can not be explained occurs physically in nature must be
dismissed. Like the following:

Explain how what you choose to believe occurs physically in nature:

- The future determining the past
- Virtual particles which exist out of nothing
- Conservation of momentum does not apply to a downgraded photon pair
- A C-60 molecule can enter, travel through, and exit multiple slits
simultaneously without requiring energy, releasing energy, or having
a change in momentum.
- Matter causes physical space to be 'unflat' but not move
- Michelson's "aether displacement to the electric current" is
different than Maxwell's displacement current
- Mass is not conserved.

The following are the most correct physical explanations to date:

- A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate
aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits
- The aether displaced by the matter which are the plates extends
past the other plate. The pressure exerted by the aether displaced
by the plates forces the plates together
- Conservation of momentum does apply to a downgraded photon pair.
When a photon is detected its wave collapses which determines its
spin. In order for the original photons momentum to be conserved,
the downgraded photon pair have opposite angular momentums.
- A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate
aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits
- Physical space is displaced by matter. Aether is displaced by
matter.
- Michelson's "aether displacement to the electric current" is the
same conceptually as Maxwell's displacement current.
- Matter and aether are different states of the same material.
In E=mc^2, Energy is matter transitioning to aether.
Mass is conserved.