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From: Jose on 18 Mar 2010 17:23 On Mar 18, 4:31 pm, "William B. Lurie" <billu...(a)nospam.net> wrote: > Jose wrote: > > On Mar 18, 3:39 pm, "William B. Lurie" <billu...(a)nospam.net> wrote: > >> William B. Lurie wrote: > >>> William B. Lurie wrote: > >>>> Jose wrote: > >>>>> CCleaner is good for this since it shows more information in a bigger > >>>>> display and CCLeaner has other useful functions you can check out > >>>>> later. You can uninstall CCleaner later if you don't use it. > >>>>> Get CCleaner here: > >>>>>http://www.ccleaner.com/ > >>>>> Here is mine: > >>>>>http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6969/ccleanerstartup.jpg > >>>> (snip) > >>>> Jose, thanks mucho for all the instructions (which I have > >>>> printed out, and snipped). I did CCleaner, and have family > >>>> obligations for the next few days and may not get to do what > >>>> you asked. But it will be my priority in a few days. Stay loose. > >>> Jose, I think I got the shots you asked for. > >>> Please check these and let me know if they are useful: > >>>http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/shot4.jpg > >>>http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/shot5.jpg > >>>http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/shot7.jpg > >>>http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/shot8.jpg > >> I didn/t ignore your request about Scheduled asks. > >> There was one back in 2009. The when column reads Never. > > >> I use Gadwin to make screen shots. Can be .bmp .jpg or .gif. > >> Let me know if you could read mine. > > > I can see them just fine. I would like to get a CClearner shot though > > when you have time. > > > William B Lurie - you have a lot of things running. You should get > > yourself a boring system like mine. > > > I am going to have to noodle out an understandable strategy and with > > your 2 hour wait and see if I can Hibernate setting, figuring it out > > could take a lot of clock time - waiting. When it does work, I don't > > want to be anywhere around for my personal safety. > > > Or, switch to one hour! > > I ran CCleaner after I downloaded and installed it. It removed > 120 MB of trash. Is there something more I should do? I will > have time sporadically. > > Switching to one hour might be the practical engineer's solution, > but the scientist wants to know *why*. I posted how to collect the Startup info from CCleaner and an example. It is just easier to read. Being a Hibernator myself, I would be curious to know why you wait 2 hours. It should work of course (as far as I know), but that is a long time. Are you thinking that you might miss something - an incoming message of some sort, a Skype call, etc. I want to know what the problem is too and if I had it, I would really try to fix it, but you have a lot of stuff running and trying to sort it out to which item might be checking for something to do every hour will take either a process of elimination (disable some, wait, disable more, wait, eetc.) trial and error or researching every item you have running. Not impossible, but time consuming. There is no way I am going to install all that stuff to try it. As some other poster says: :D In theory, your system should be fine with zero startup items. Take a look at my CCleaner startup and Task Manager. But my computer life on this box is very calm! If you disable all the Startup items in msconfig, you may not be able to do some things, missing some items in your system try for a while when you are testing with the programs not loaded, but you could disable them all, reboot then see what happens in two hours. You may get some complaining messages, but does hibernate work now? If it still doesn't work, we will know it is something else and can look elsewhere. Right now I see you can disable realsched, Reader_sl, ctfmon (unless you are using a multilingual interface), dumprep, ACLMTR, STTask, VProTray to start. You don't "need" them to survive and they are not your hibernation problem (I don't think) but they are things you can eliminate from the equation - at least temporarily. Then you will have 7 less possibilities - but it will take you 2 hours to find out. If it doesn't work, do some more. Plus you have a pesky empty Startup item and we can fix that easily later. Let's say you just disable 5 and test. No good? Do 5 more and test again. Works now? Turn 1 of the last 5 on and test again. Sooner or later (hours later), you will find the culprit. Maybe you can Google (yes it is now an official verb in the English language) the items to help you see what they do, if they are on some auto update/check thing and if you can do without them - at least for testing. You have many, many variables and the process of elimination may take less time than researching individual items to find out what they do. When you find the one that prevents hibernation, research that one and figure out if you can change it. If you can't figure out what it is, figure out what it's not.
From: William B. Lurie on 19 Mar 2010 07:49 > Let's say you just disable 5 and test. No good? Do 5 more and test > again. Works now? Turn 1 of the last 5 on and test again. Sooner or > later (hours later), you will find the culprit. Maybe you can Google > (yes it is now an official verb in the English language) the items to > help you see what they do, if they are on some auto update/check thing > and if you can do without them - at least for testing. > > You have many, many variables and the process of elimination may take > less time than researching individual items to find out what they do. > When you find the one that prevents hibernation, research that one and > figure out if you can change it. If you can't figure out what it is, > figure out what it's not. > Jose, my work on this will continue but very sporadic until after Sunday, because we have a daughter and 30-year old granddaughter visiting us and sharing the computer until then. Your advice is sound and welcome and I started with the 7 you listed, overnight, taking them out of startup. Was no help. But I'll be back. I like to snip off a bunch of older stuff, so if anybody objects, let me know.
From: William B. Lurie on 19 Mar 2010 08:56 William B. Lurie wrote: > > >> Let's say you just disable 5 and test. No good? Do 5 more and test >> again. Works now? Turn 1 of the last 5 on and test again. Sooner or >> later (hours later), you will find the culprit. Maybe you can Google >> (yes it is now an official verb in the English language) the items to >> help you see what they do, if they are on some auto update/check thing >> and if you can do without them - at least for testing. >> >> You have many, many variables and the process of elimination may take >> less time than researching individual items to find out what they do. >> When you find the one that prevents hibernation, research that one and >> figure out if you can change it. If you can't figure out what it is, >> figure out what it's not. >> > Jose, my work on this will continue but very sporadic until > after Sunday, because we have a daughter and 30-year old granddaughter > visiting us and sharing the computer until then. Your advice is sound > and welcome and I started with the 7 you listed, overnight, taking > them out of startup. Was no help. But I'll be back. > > I like to snip off a bunch of older stuff, so if anybody objects, > let me know. Continuing on, since the computer is available, I have disabled many of the items, leaving only 3 questionable "user" items in the TaskManager list. I have to track down, for one thing, why RealSched keeps coming back onto the startup list even when I uncheck it. Not vital, because for the 2-hour test, I can just delete it from RAM. There is RTHDCPL.EXE which is some kind of Windows Audio program which I can uncheck for these tests. And there is RecGuard which also keeps coming back when I uncheck it. Maybe you can advise me on those. Anyway, I still have a running system with darn near everything that is "Compaq User" and suspicious in the Task List, unchecked and not in RAM
From: William B. Lurie on 19 Mar 2010 09:31 William B. Lurie wrote: > William B. Lurie wrote: >> >> >>> Let's say you just disable 5 and test. No good? Do 5 more and test >>> again. Works now? Turn 1 of the last 5 on and test again. Sooner or >>> later (hours later), you will find the culprit. Maybe you can Google >>> (yes it is now an official verb in the English language) the items to >>> help you see what they do, if they are on some auto update/check thing >>> and if you can do without them - at least for testing. >>> >>> You have many, many variables and the process of elimination may take >>> less time than researching individual items to find out what they do. >>> When you find the one that prevents hibernation, research that one and >>> figure out if you can change it. If you can't figure out what it is, >>> figure out what it's not. >>> >> Jose, my work on this will continue but very sporadic until >> after Sunday, because we have a daughter and 30-year old granddaughter >> visiting us and sharing the computer until then. Your advice is sound >> and welcome and I started with the 7 you listed, overnight, taking >> them out of startup. Was no help. But I'll be back. >> >> I like to snip off a bunch of older stuff, so if anybody objects, >> let me know. > > Continuing on, since the computer is available, I have disabled many > of the items, leaving only 3 questionable "user" items in the > TaskManager list. I have to track down, for one thing, why > RealSched keeps coming back onto the startup list even when I > uncheck it. Not vital, because for the 2-hour test, I can just > delete it from RAM. > > There is RTHDCPL.EXE which is some kind of Windows Audio program > which I can uncheck for these tests. > > And there is RecGuard which also keeps coming back when I uncheck it. > Maybe you can advise me on those. Anyway, I still have a running system > with darn near everything that is "Compaq User" and suspicious in the > Task List, unchecked and not in RAM. And further!!!! ISUSPM.exe and ISSCH.EXE ... Install Shield Update Service!!! And Scheduler!!!! It obviously runs without being asked to by *me*. I have searched but can't find out what the built-in parameters are. Maybe one of them runs every hour!!!! Anybody got any suggestions of built-in, hard-wired 'helpful' programs, like these, that maybe run every hour?
From: Bill P on 19 Mar 2010 13:02
"Purpose of this file: Isuspm.exe is a program which may have been installed by you when you installed other software programs. The actual disk location is shown below for you, so you can always verify the location of the file to make sure it is not spyware or adware, as the file should be located in the proper folder and not elsewhere. This is a program which is from a company called Macrovision. The purpose of this isuspm.exe software program is to check for the latest updates from Macrovision products. This can be removed from your startup if you wish to check for updates yourself manually. This file is considered safe and is not considered spyware, adware, or virus related. Visit isuspm.exe for complete information on this task or process. If you would like help on other tasks or processes, you can view the entire process and task directory here. What is the isuspm.exe location, where is it stored on my computer? This file will be found on your hard drive at C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\INSTAL~1\UPDATE~1\ISUSPM.exe " "Purpose of this file: Issch.exe is a program that part of an installshield utility. The exact disk location where it should be stored on your computer is also shown below to verify it is not spyware, as many spyware programs use similar names and just locate them elsewhere on your hard drive. Always check the proper disk location of your programs if you are concerned that they may be spyware or virus. This issch.exe programs purpose is to keep the software up to date. Basically it checks for new versions and is not necessary to always run in your system startup. This file is considered safe and is not spyware or adware related. Visit issch.exe for complete information on this task or process. If you would like help on other tasks or processes, you can view the entire process and task directory here. What is the issch.exe location, where is it stored on my computer? This file will be found on your hard drive at C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\INSTAL~1\UPDATE~1\issch.exe " Just some info that Google threw up. > And further!!!! > ISUSPM.exe and ISSCH.EXE ... > Install Shield Update Service!!! And Scheduler!!!! > It obviously runs without being asked to by *me*. > I have searched but can't find out what the built-in parameters are. > Maybe one of them runs every hour!!!! > Anybody got any suggestions of built-in, hard-wired > 'helpful' programs, like these, that maybe run every hour? > |