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From: William B. Lurie on 24 Mar 2010 18:33 Well, after a few days of not posting anything, I'd like to show a status report. I have a great, clean, system, with all sorts of things no longer cluttering up the Startup menu and the Task Manager. I have WIA started and Automatic, and hibernate set to 2 hours........and Events Log show that every hour, WIA causes an event so that it *never* goes to hibernate. Here's one event: ******************************************************* Event Type: Information Event Source: Service Control Manager Event Category: None Event ID: 7036 Date: 3/24/2010 Time: 5:40:58 PM User: N/A Computer: COMPAQ-2006 Description: The Windows Image Acquisition (WIA) service entered the running state. For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. ********************************************************* It's obviously set *somewhere* at 1 hour. How do I get it changed to 3 hours? William B. Lurie wrote: > Well, you'll see it posted here as things progress (we hope). > But I've run out of investigating programs that are shown as > being under my loading control (i.e., non-System, non- > Network Service, non-Local Service) , and the Events that > are recorded are so non-specific that only the insiders can > tell which might have a one-hour repeat built into it. Like, > look at the error event below-----who would know whether > ftsata32 or KLIF are worth investigating, or how to do so? > > I'm beginning to get the idea that I may just have to live with > no hibernate setting over 1 hour to be viable on this HP/Compaq > construction of Windows XP. > > Unknown wrote: >> Please let us know the final result. Thanks. >> "William B. Lurie" <billurie(a)nospam.net> wrote in message >> news:%23hkefggyKHA.1796(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> Thanx for tryimg, UN. My camera is deactivated and none of its >>> software loaded......Good luck. >>> Unknown wrote: >>>> I set my hibernate time for two hours and it worked perfectly. That >>>> gives me nothing to work with. >>>> I do not have any cameras. Sorry. >>>> "William B. Lurie" <billurie(a)nospam.net> wrote in message >>>> news:%23QfmK9cyKHA.5940(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>> Okay, I'll stay active in this project as long as people continue >>>>> to be helpful. As you've read in the thread, Jose has steered me >>>>> in the right direction. Getting rid of unnecessary clutter, that >>>>> supposedly was designed to make things easier and more automatic >>>>> for the user, sometimes have unwanted effects. And never >>>>> furnishing satisfying explanations as to why they are there, and >>>>> preventing the user to clean them out, is a constant annoyance. >>>>> Some of the MVP big guns can be great, though. >>>>> >>>>> I have deactivated and prevented from loading a dozen files, all >>>>> having been seen in the Task Manager as resident in RAM and as >>>>> having been requested by Compaq-Owner (that's me). But there are >>>>> a dozen there that are loaded by "System", and I don't dare stop >>>>> those from loading, certainly not without some good advice. >>>>> Right now I'm waiting for Jose's next advice. >>>>> >>>>> Unknown wrote: >>>>>> Please don't give up. I am extremely curious and wish I had your >>>>>> system to work on. I am setting my hibernate time to two hours to >>>>>> see if I may have the same problem. Will let you know. >>>>>> "William B. Lurie" <billurie(a)nospam.net> wrote in message >>>>>> news:%23IhdlpbyKHA.2644(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> William B. Lurie wr >>>>>>> (snip) >>>>>>>> Jose, except for refining what CC shows, I've been following you >>>>>>>> and I >>>>>>>> have taken a half dozen files, including realsched.exe, agent >>>>>>>> issch ISUSPM and just left hem in place, with their extension >>>>>>>> changed to .EXX ... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As we agreed, it takes hours to let it run and go to hibernate and >>>>>>>> then bring it out to see if it's clean... but fortunately my house >>>>>>>> guests are out on other ventures in a strange land (South >>>>>>>> Florida) and >>>>>>>> I have time. When they're here the computer stays busy/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hang loose. I think I'm almost ready to graduate from your tutoring >>>>>>>> course. >>>>>>> Well, a new status report. See my current TM and Startup. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/cc322.JPG >>>>>>> http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/tm322.JPG >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think they are cleaned of just about everything that >>>>>>> I can deactivate. Note that in TM there is one Compaq-Owner item >>>>>>> ccSvcHost that the system will not let me delete. BTW, >>>>>>> I have changed WIA to 'disabled' and the bottom line is still >>>>>>> that things happen to prevent hibernate at more than 1 hour. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here's a sample Event that I can't resolve: >>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> Event Type: Error >>>>>>> Event Source: Service Control Manager >>>>>>> Event Category: None >>>>>>> Event ID: 7026 >>>>>>> Date: 3/21/2010 >>>>>>> Time: 11:16:22 PM >>>>>>> User: N/A >>>>>>> Computer: COMPAQ-2006 >>>>>>> Description: >>>>>>> The following boot-start or system-start driver(s) failed to load: >>>>>>> ftsata2 >>>>>>> KLIF >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at >>>>>>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. >>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> This was a System event that occurred when the system should >>>>>>> have been going to hibernation. >>>>>>> I keep telling myself that I should just live with hibernate >>>>>>> set at 1 hour, but the scientist in me refuses to give up. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>
From: William B. Lurie on 25 Mar 2010 08:31 William B. Lurie wrote: > Well, after a few days of not posting anything, I'd like to > show a status report. I have a great, clean, system, with all sorts > of things no longer cluttering up the Startup menu and the Task > Manager. I have WIA started and Automatic, and hibernate set to > 2 hours........and Events Log show that every hour, WIA causes > an event so that it *never* goes to hibernate. Here's one event: > ******************************************************* > Event Type: Information > Event Source: Service Control Manager > Event Category: None > Event ID: 7036 > Date: 3/24/2010 > Time: 5:40:58 PM > User: N/A > Computer: COMPAQ-2006 > Description: > The Windows Image Acquisition (WIA) service entered the running state. > > For more information, see Help and Support Center at > http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. > ********************************************************* > It's obviously set *somewhere* at 1 hour. How do I get it > changed to 3 hours? > (snipped) A closer look at services.msc shows, on expanding WIA, that its executable is at Windows\system32\svchost.exe-k imgsvc ..... I'd appreciate it if one of those who know, would please lead me to (or give me) instructions for modifying that executable so that it kicks in every 3 hours instead of every hour.
From: John John - MVP on 25 Mar 2010 09:19 William B. Lurie wrote: > William B. Lurie wrote: >> Well, after a few days of not posting anything, I'd like to >> show a status report. I have a great, clean, system, with all sorts >> of things no longer cluttering up the Startup menu and the Task >> Manager. I have WIA started and Automatic, and hibernate set to >> 2 hours........and Events Log show that every hour, WIA causes >> an event so that it *never* goes to hibernate. Here's one event: >> ******************************************************* >> Event Type: Information >> Event Source: Service Control Manager >> Event Category: None >> Event ID: 7036 >> Date: 3/24/2010 >> Time: 5:40:58 PM >> User: N/A >> Computer: COMPAQ-2006 >> Description: >> The Windows Image Acquisition (WIA) service entered the running state. >> >> For more information, see Help and Support Center at >> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. >> ********************************************************* >> It's obviously set *somewhere* at 1 hour. How do I get it >> changed to 3 hours? >> (snipped) > > A closer look at services.msc shows, on expanding WIA, that its > executable is at Windows\system32\svchost.exe-k imgsvc ..... > > I'd appreciate it if one of those who know, would please lead > me to (or give me) instructions for modifying that executable > so that it kicks in every 3 hours instead of every hour. The service isn't starting of its own, it's starting because *something else* is asking it to start. Sometime ago I gave you two commands to get the list of running programs and services when the machine boots, can you run them again and post the results? Reboot the machine and then run these three commands at a Command Prompt, pressing enter after each: net start > c:\test.txt tasklist /svc >> c:\test.txt c:\test.txt Copy and paste the contents of the notepad file to your next post. Please note the single redirector (>) in the first command and the double one (>>)in the second command. John
From: William B. Lurie on 25 Mar 2010 11:02 John John - MVP wrote: > William B. Lurie wrote: >> William B. Lurie wrote: >>> Well, after a few days of not posting anything, I'd like to >>> show a status report. I have a great, clean, system, with all sorts >>> of things no longer cluttering up the Startup menu and the Task >>> Manager. I have WIA started and Automatic, and hibernate set to >>> 2 hours........and Events Log show that every hour, WIA causes >>> an event so that it *never* goes to hibernate. Here's one event: >>> ******************************************************* >>> Event Type: Information >>> Event Source: Service Control Manager >>> Event Category: None >>> Event ID: 7036 >>> Date: 3/24/2010 >>> Time: 5:40:58 PM >>> User: N/A >>> Computer: COMPAQ-2006 >>> Description: >>> The Windows Image Acquisition (WIA) service entered the running state. >>> >>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at >>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. >>> ********************************************************* >>> It's obviously set *somewhere* at 1 hour. How do I get it >>> changed to 3 hours? >>> (snipped) >> >> A closer look at services.msc shows, on expanding WIA, that its >> executable is at Windows\system32\svchost.exe-k imgsvc ..... >> >> I'd appreciate it if one of those who know, would please lead >> me to (or give me) instructions for modifying that executable >> so that it kicks in every 3 hours instead of every hour. > > The service isn't starting of its own, it's starting because *something > else* is asking it to start. Sometime ago I gave you two commands to > get the list of running programs and services when the machine boots, > can you run them again and post the results? Reboot the machine and > then run these three commands at a Command Prompt, pressing enter after > each: > > net start > c:\test.txt > tasklist /svc >> c:\test.txt > c:\test.txt > > Copy and paste the contents of the notepad file to your next post. > Please note the single redirector (>) in the first command and the > double one (>>)in the second command. > > John Here's the first one, John. These Windows services are started: Application Layer Gateway Service COM+ Event System Cryptographic Services DCOM Server Process Launcher DHCP Client Distributed Link Tracking Client DNS Client Error Reporting Service Event Log Fast User Switching Compatibility Help and Support LexBce Server lxct_device Network Connections Network Location Awareness (NLA) Norton AntiVirus Pervasive PSQL Workgroup Engine Plug and Play Print Spooler Protected Storage Remote Access Connection Manager Remote Procedure Call (RPC) Secondary Logon Security Accounts Manager Server Shell Hardware Detection Speed Disk service SSDP Discovery Service System Event Notification TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper Telephony Terminal Services Themes Viewpoint Manager Service WebClient Windows Audio Windows Firewall/Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) Windows Management Instrumentation Windows Time Wireless Zero Configuration Workstation The command completed successfully. The second one gave the error pane saying: Windows cannot find tasklist .......... What did I do wrong?
From: John John - MVP on 25 Mar 2010 12:13
William B. Lurie wrote: > John John - MVP wrote: >> William B. Lurie wrote: >>> William B. Lurie wrote: >>>> Well, after a few days of not posting anything, I'd like to >>>> show a status report. I have a great, clean, system, with all sorts >>>> of things no longer cluttering up the Startup menu and the Task >>>> Manager. I have WIA started and Automatic, and hibernate set to >>>> 2 hours........and Events Log show that every hour, WIA causes >>>> an event so that it *never* goes to hibernate. Here's one event: >>>> ******************************************************* >>>> Event Type: Information >>>> Event Source: Service Control Manager >>>> Event Category: None >>>> Event ID: 7036 >>>> Date: 3/24/2010 >>>> Time: 5:40:58 PM >>>> User: N/A >>>> Computer: COMPAQ-2006 >>>> Description: >>>> The Windows Image Acquisition (WIA) service entered the running state. >>>> >>>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at >>>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. >>>> ********************************************************* >>>> It's obviously set *somewhere* at 1 hour. How do I get it >>>> changed to 3 hours? >>>> (snipped) >>> >>> A closer look at services.msc shows, on expanding WIA, that its >>> executable is at Windows\system32\svchost.exe-k imgsvc ..... >>> >>> I'd appreciate it if one of those who know, would please lead >>> me to (or give me) instructions for modifying that executable >>> so that it kicks in every 3 hours instead of every hour. >> >> The service isn't starting of its own, it's starting because >> *something else* is asking it to start. Sometime ago I gave you two >> commands to get the list of running programs and services when the >> machine boots, can you run them again and post the results? Reboot >> the machine and then run these three commands at a Command Prompt, >> pressing enter after each: >> >> net start > c:\test.txt >> tasklist /svc >> c:\test.txt >> c:\test.txt >> >> Copy and paste the contents of the notepad file to your next post. >> Please note the single redirector (>) in the first command and the >> double one (>>)in the second command. >> >> John > Here's the first one, John. > ... > The second one gave the error pane saying: > > Windows cannot find tasklist .......... > What did I do wrong? This was discussed in our thread a few weeks ago and at that time you had gotten it to work. Here is a refresher. Tasklist is included with Windows XP Professional but it isn't included in XP Home. Download Tasklist.exe here: http://www.computerhope.com/download/winxp/tasklist.exe (Direct download link) Download the file and place it in your C:\Windows\System32 folder. Reboot the computer and run the command just after the reboot, we want an accurate list of what is running just after the machine is booted and before you start or run anything else. John |