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From: Neil Harrington on 15 Nov 2009 00:52 "Eric Stevens" <eric.stevens(a)sum.co.nz> wrote in message news:t28uf5hjm52ous6p5d4sren7rv8k86agfo(a)4ax.com... > On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:03:47 -0500, "Neil Harrington" > <secret(a)illumnati.net> wrote: > >> >>"Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message >>news:2009111401130782327-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom... >> >> >>> >>> It seems we left our history far behind. Have you ever noticed where the >>> good old Wells Fargo stage coach driver sat, ...on the right, shotgun on >>> the left. >> >>Apparently that was the standard arrangement for all horse and buggy >>drivers >>too. (Going by the movies, anyway.) >> >>And it's still the standard position for whoever's steering a power boat. >> >>At least some of the earliest American automobiles had right-hand drive >>also. Now I'm wondering where and why left-hand drive got started. Perhaps >>it was because the gearshift was centrally located, and it's more natural >>to >>work that with the dominant hand, which for 90% of people is the right >>one. >> > > Blame Napoleon. He laid down the law for France and at the beginning > of the 20th century France dominated the automobile industry. But sans Napoleon.
From: Neil Harrington on 15 Nov 2009 00:55 "Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message news:2009111418333411272-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom... > On 2009-11-14 17:01:56 -0800, "Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net> said: > >> >> "George Kerby" <ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:C724AB44.3856A%ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com... >>> >>> >>> >>> On 11/14/09 9:03 AM, in article >>> 8LudnUMIR_9IW2PXnZ2dnUVZ_ridnZ2d(a)giganews.com, "Neil Harrington" >>> <secret(a)illumnati.net> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> "Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message >>>> news:2009111401130782327-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom... >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> It seems we left our history far behind. Have you ever noticed where >>>>> the >>>>> good old Wells Fargo stage coach driver sat, ...on the right, shotgun >>>>> on >>>>> the left. >>>> >>>> Apparently that was the standard arrangement for all horse and buggy >>>> drivers >>>> too. (Going by the movies, anyway.) >>>> >>>> And it's still the standard position for whoever's steering a power >>>> boat. >> >> Did the Indians frequently attack power boats? > > Only in the Spring. And Indian Summer. They hated noisy outboards and water skiers especially.
From: Bob Larter on 15 Nov 2009 02:18 Bill Graham wrote: > > "Bob Larter" <bobbylarter(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:4afe7080$1(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au... >> Bill Graham wrote: >>> >>> "J�rgen Exner" <jurgenex(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:r48sf5hvnn2lu320s5prvsp7agi8aar9ff(a)4ax.com... >>>> "Neil Harrington" <secret(a)illumnati.net> wrote: >>>>> As a unit of liquid measure, the cup is what it is and does not >>>>> have any >>>>> particular relationship to the amount of coffee you're served in a >>>>> cup. >>>> >>>> Then if the unit "cup" doesn't have a relationship to a cup of beverage >>>> then what is the specific benefit of having that unit "cup" instead of >>>> using e.g 1/4 liter? >>>> >>>> jue >>> >>> None. It's just a slang term. Actually, when it comes to a cup of >>> coffee, it's usually closer to 1/4 liter than a cup, which is 1/4 of >>> a quart. You have to remember that the world is 99% housewives, and >>> only 1% engineers. >> >> A metric cup *is* 1/4 of a liter. >> > The most common coffee cup used here in the US is the Corning, "Correll > Ware" cup, and it is almost exactly 250 cc's. Well, there you go. You're already used to one common metric measure. -- W . | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because \|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est ---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
From: Bob Larter on 15 Nov 2009 02:34 Savageduck wrote: > On 2009-11-14 16:44:39 -0800, "Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net> said: > >> >> "Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message >> news:2009111406385244303-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom... >>> On 2009-11-14 04:27:19 -0800, "Wilba" <usenet(a)CUTTHISimago.com.au> said: >>> >>>> Savageduck wrote: >>>>> Savageduck said: >>>>>> Wilba said: >>>>>>> Savageduck wrote: >>>>>>>> Wilba said: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Years ago I read that left-hand drive is safer overall, because >>>>>>>>> when a >>>>>>>>> person is startled they tend to raise their non-dominant hand to >>>>>>>>> protect >>>>>>>>> their head. If at the time they are steering a car on the left >>>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>>> road, 9 out of 10 will therefore sverve into oncoming traffic. >>>>>>>>> Apparently the effect is statistically significant. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It seems we left our history far behind. Have you ever noticed >>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> good old Wells Fargo stage coach driver sat, ...on the right, >>>>>>>> shotgun >>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>> the left. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Don't see many of them 'round these here parts. :- ) >>>>>> >>>>>> Note the driver on the left. >>>>>> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/Concord_stagecoach_1869.png >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sorry, that was the right, the shot gun was on the left. >>>>> Now I don't know my left from my right! >>>> >>>> I worked that out. :- ) >>>> >>>> I wonder why they did it that way, since the driver is on the ejector >>>> side...? Maybe the convention pre-dates the widespread use of repeating >>>> rifles. >>> >>> I think it was a case of right handed shotgun shooters out numbering >>> left handed shooters. That way they wouldn't have to replace a driver >>> every time a left handed guard blew the driver away. Maybe a >>> qualification for shotgun guards was to be right handed. >>> >>> Maybe there was a rule of the road that stagecoach robbers had a "rob >>> from left side" only sense of etiquette. ;-) >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> >>> Savageduck >>> >> Maybe it had something to do with which side the shells were ejected >> from when the rifle action was worked....It would be very annoying to >> the driver if the hot shell casings were ejected into his face while >> he was trying to get away from the bad guys..... > > A left handed shotgun guard would be pointing his shotgun at the driver > on the left, when sitting on the right side, instead of pointing it > safely off to the right. > In any sort of a fight who cares where the empty cases go? Dunno about you, but I'd prefer them not to go flying towards my pants. -- W . | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because \|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est ---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
From: Ray Fischer on 15 Nov 2009 01:48
tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:03:59 -0000, "R. Mark Clayton" ><nospamclayton(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > >>US units are a shambolic mess, inconsistent with each other and almost >>completely irrational for dealing with the real world. >> >And yet we manage. Only just. >The world that each of us lives in is the "real world". We, who live >in the US, have no problem dealing with our system. "No problem"?? How many yards in a mile? How many feet in a quarter mile? How many teaspoons in a cup? If you don't know those offhand then you obviously have problems dealing with the system. -- Ray Fischer rfischer(a)sonic.net |