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From: Jeff Johnson on 3 Jun 2010 16:17 "kpg" <ipost(a)thereforeiam> wrote in message news:Xns9D8C920B384A5ipostthereforeiam(a)207.46.248.16... >> Wow, not only has www.eternal-september.org apparently said it will not >> honor the rogue rmgroup requests for the microsoft.public.* hierarchy, >> it appears they have now added (nearly?) all the groups that they >> didn't already have to those they carry! >> >> If you have an E-S account, and are using a newsreader that doesn't >> automatically notify you of new groups, it's time to renew your lists. >> > > I'm coming in to this late...what is the advantage of using es vs ms? > > Is ms dropping the classic vb groups? Nobody tells me anything. Search for older threads with "Microsoft responds" in the subject line.
From: Karl E. Peterson on 3 Jun 2010 16:47 Jeff Johnson submitted this idea : > "kpg" <ipost(a)thereforeiam> wrote ... > >>> Wow, not only has www.eternal-september.org apparently said it will not >>> honor the rogue rmgroup requests for the microsoft.public.* hierarchy, >>> it appears they have now added (nearly?) all the groups that they >>> didn't already have to those they carry! >>> >>> If you have an E-S account, and are using a newsreader that doesn't >>> automatically notify you of new groups, it's time to renew your lists. >>> >> >> I'm coming in to this late...what is the advantage of using es vs ms? >> >> Is ms dropping the classic vb groups? Nobody tells me anything. > > Search for older threads with "Microsoft responds" in the subject line. Or alternatively... Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Communities http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/default.mspx -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org Customer Hatred Knows No Bounds at MSFT ClassicVB Users Regroup! comp.lang.basic.visual.misc Free usenet access at http://www.eternal-september.org
From: Karl E. Peterson on 3 Jun 2010 16:47 Peter T wrote on 6/3/2010 : > "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> wrote in message >> >> Yeah, I was over there surveying the territory the last couple days. It's >> a freakin' mess!!! You can't track responses to your posts, new messages >> in threads, who responds to who, nothing! And I can read a dozen or more >> messages in this group in the time it takes me to switch from one to >> another in that gawdawful mess. > > FWIW there are a couple of Bridge alternatives which allow the familiar > newsreader UI for the new web forums. The MS version, or rather versions as > you need one for Answers and another for MSDN & TechNet, is here > > http://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums > > But forget about that, Jochan Kalmback announced his version just a week ago > and hit the ground running. Just the single app with loads of features, > typically a new one every day. > > http://communitybridge.codeplex.com/ > (see the Documentation page) Yeah, was aware of those, but the first is doomed and the latter is shooting at a moving target. Neither is a long-term viable solution. -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org Customer Hatred Knows No Bounds at MSFT ClassicVB Users Regroup! comp.lang.basic.visual.misc Free usenet access at http://www.eternal-september.org
From: Wolfgang Enzinger on 3 Jun 2010 17:46 On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 12:21:22 -0700, kpg <ipost(a)thereforeiam> wrote: >Is ms dropping the classic vb groups? Not only. They'll drop their NNTP services entirely, little by little. >Nobody tells me anything. Don't feel bad, I will. ;-) See, they just don't like non-centric systems anymore (that's not exactly breaking news, is it?), like NNTP or self-sufficient PC systems. So they tell us they have something new instead which is far better. Well ... go and check yourself what they have to offer. The good news is: if you don't like it, you can just stick with what you have. You just have to eventually change some of your newsreader settings and connect to an alternate server as is described at http://www.eternal-september.org/ for instance. MSFT cannot control the NNTP system entirely, so that's something we should preserve and keep alive, IMO. :-)
From: Karl E. Peterson on 3 Jun 2010 17:55
Wolfgang Enzinger wrote: > us they have something new instead which is far better. Well ... go and check > yourself what they have to offer. The good news is: if you don't like it, you > can just stick with what you have. Boy, I've been over there, looked, and am still shaking! <chuckle> It's just *nutz* I tell ya. Examples: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vbgeneral/thread/8905dfca-8302-40df-a765-0359009297c6#5e216914-1f5c-4305-abcf-16a3c99e2c93 http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vbgeneral/thread/ba2234f8-cc2f-41c8-8c1f-551558023c3e http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vbgeneral/thread/46557a29-1789-4f77-97c9-4c8be533438b I gotta say, it sort of refreshing to watch them react in horror when someone answers a ClassicVB question. <eg> -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org Customer Hatred Knows No Bounds at MSFT ClassicVB Users Regroup! comp.lang.basic.visual.misc Free usenet access at http://www.eternal-september.org |