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From: James Juno on 2 Mar 2010 12:38 "BobF" <nothanks(a)no.spam> wrote... > Hector Santos wrote: >> >> The idea of the Start Page if it primarily focuses on local developer >> activity first and allows for easily configuration, is ok I think. For >> example, having the Recent Projects come up I like. >> > > What wrong with recent projects from the File menu? How about that. I wasn't even aware there was another way to get to recent projects. By habit, I completely ignore all that "noise" on the start page and go straight to the recent projects menu. -JJ
From: Hector Santos on 2 Mar 2010 13:10 BobF wrote: > Hector Santos wrote: >> >> The idea of the Start Page if it primarily focuses on local developer >> activity first and allows for easily configuration, is ok I think. For >> example, having the Recent Projects come up I like. >> > > What wrong with recent projects from the File menu? Nothing technically. Two extra clicks. :) The idea of a start page is like a work desk which tends to naturally follow pareto's principle, most things you do/use go to top. When I get a chance, I'm going to play with the custom stuff. I would to see panels as it stuffs up: - Recent Projects (which would be your own) - Task list (your own), - In-house Developer Notifications - Recent VCS changes summary - Warnings (I prefer sneak net here <g>) - Small IM feature (maybe) The IM feature would be cool for a Microsoft product feature is provided for internal teams first, but I wouldn't want to take away from our current in-house IM/chat system. Also, for recent pages, I would to expand this to incorporate exploratory projects or separate for production projects. So maybe a Recent Research Projects panel. In Short, MS can do so much with the Start Page and it doesn't have to include the unethical intent to track your usage. @Microsoft: KEEP YOUR EYES ON THE PRIZE! A powerful and fast developers tool set. -- HLS
From: BobF on 2 Mar 2010 13:38 Hector Santos wrote: > BobF wrote: > >> Hector Santos wrote: >>> >>> The idea of the Start Page if it primarily focuses on local developer >>> activity first and allows for easily configuration, is ok I think. >>> For example, having the Recent Projects come up I like. >>> >> >> What wrong with recent projects from the File menu? > > > Nothing technically. Two extra clicks. :) To each his own. Personally, I'm not jumping between projects often enough to have "two extra clicks" add up to anything significant. While I get your point about useful stuff in plain sight, having a list of recent projects in sight would be wasting space that I could use for something more useful. I like having recent projects tucked away, but being *only* two clicks away :-)
From: Ajay Kalra on 2 Mar 2010 14:19 On Mar 2, 12:38 pm, "James Juno" <j...(a)noplace.fake> wrote: > How about that. I wasn't even aware there was another way to get to recent > projects. By habit, I completely ignore all that "noise" on the start page > and go straight to the recent projects menu. I only use the menu. For me most projects are named the same(various branches of the same product) and Start Page doesnt give the full name of the project (including directory) but menu does. -- Ajay
From: Hector Santos on 2 Mar 2010 14:36
BobF wrote: > Hector Santos wrote: >> BobF wrote: >> >>> Hector Santos wrote: >>>> >>>> The idea of the Start Page if it primarily focuses on local >>>> developer activity first and allows for easily configuration, is ok >>>> I think. For example, having the Recent Projects come up I like. >>>> >>> >>> What wrong with recent projects from the File menu? >> >> >> Nothing technically. Two extra clicks. :) > > To each his own. Right. > Personally, I'm not jumping between projects often > enough to have "two extra clicks" add up to anything significant. We have 180+ projects in our build process. I know peanuts. :) > While I get your point about useful stuff in plain sight, having a list > of recent projects in sight would be wasting space that I could use for > something more useful. Right, developer defined useful stuff. Thats the point. Including the tracking if that is what you want. I have a great allergy towards privacy and security oriented stuff. So that would be something I would not want in the IDE which is otherwise a private endeavor. > I like having recent projects tucked away, but being *only* two clicks > away :-) Cool. IMO, it might change if you had lots of projects, maybe not. I personally explore so many things that its get harder to keep track. For me, the IDE is also functions greatly as a "DEMO" marking tool (new product/idea outliner) (remember DEMO by Dan Brickin?). That was one of the major benefits of the IDE when they first come out, not just for developers, but including project managers. -- HLS |