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From: Will Honea on 27 Nov 2009 01:02 houghi wrote: > Will Honea wrote: >> Second effort was a clean install selecting XFCE as the DE > > You should have stopped there. ;-) Believe me, I thought long and hard about it! The crux of my problem (beyond the uneasiness over flakey/missing functions) are the users. For the organizations I support (on a volunteer basis as I am also on most of their boards) by far the majority of the users are barely able to turn the computer on. They are, in general, quite competent at their specific tasks but their comfort range is very small; moving an icon on the desktop upsets their whole routine. That means that XFCE presents essentially the same problems as does KDE 4. In point of fact, if I can manage to strip KDE 4 to a bare minimum and essentially cover it with a skin that looks and essentially acts like KDE 3 I will consider it much more favorably. (as an aside - I'm not sure which I prefer to work with: the know-it-all or the helpless; the latter takes a lot of time, the former is downright dangerous) -- Will Honea
From: Paul J Gans on 27 Nov 2009 16:45 felmon <nemo(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote: >On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:05:16 +0000, Paul J Gans wrote: >> I always assign these things to more or less standard screens so they >> are all one click away. Try doing that in Windows. >you're right about my going off-topic but just another remark about >styles of work. what you described would drive our secretary or my wife >(very smart folks) bonkers. both of them shut down one application when >they start another! (probably with the exception of the browser.) of >course, using Windows they don't know about this desktop magic but I >doubt they would use it because it still would feel 'cluttered'. >I seldom use it myself. old dog. not sure it would help me much in my >work either. >frankly and to be fair, what I need to do is research what kde4.x gains >me that I don't have with kde3.x (aside from a later eol). True. But in fact I suspect that sooner or later (I hope later for me) we will just have to get used to KDE4 -- OR find another window manager we like better. -- --- Paul J. Gans
From: madscientist159 on 12 Dec 2009 17:11
On Nov 24, 4:26 pm, Paul J Gans <gan...(a)panix.com> wrote: > houghi <hou...(a)houghi.org.invalid> wrote: > >Paul J Gans wrote: > >> I'm set for the next year or so. I'm looking to see where I > >> go *after* that. > >As you (and many others) seem so focussed on KDE3, perhaps back to > >Windows? No, this is not trolling. > > I cannot do in Windows what I need to do on a computer. Period. > > >It is as if KDE3 is the only thing that exists out there, is the only > >good thing and nothing else matters. > > No. See my recent post about the "feel" of a distribution. > > >If that is the case, why is it not yet forked? Fork it and if you > >desire, call it something different. I am not talking to a person > >individually. I am talking to all people who seem to be moaning how bad > >KDE4 is and how great KDE3 is. > >For all I know you are right with that. Then start doing something about > >it. Untill then, KDE3 will be dropped, there will be only KDE4 that you > >won't like and a good alternative might be back to Windows. > > Houghi, when I retire, I might do that. Right now I have no time. > I need to get things done. > > And no, you don't want my rant on Windows. Windows is a device to > keep the user from actually USING the computer. It lets you play, > and it lets you run canned packages. Some folks can actually do > productive work on such a machine. But they are often acting > like data entry people and not at all being creative. > > That's the start of the rant. You don't want the rest. > > -- > --- Paul J. Gans Yes, it has been forked. I have a website up at http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net (it's down at the moment for maintenance, but will be back in a couple of days) that details the new Trinity project. Basically, for the past year or so I had been maintaining and significantly enhancing KDE3.5 for Ubuntu systems, and I recently decided that I had accumulated enough altered code to justify a true fork. I am looking for other developers who would like to assist; just like the original KDE, you don't need to write code to help; even helping with the UI design or artwork is much appreciated. If you are interested in helping, please contact me at kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net. Offical SVN is here at the moment; as you can see, changes are already being checked in: http://websvn.kde.org/branches/trinity/ Long live the (efficient) KDE3.5 interface :-) Timothy Pearson Trinity Developer |