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From: Paul J Gans on 25 Nov 2009 14:05 felmon <nemo(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote: >On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:26:52 +0000, Paul J Gans wrote: >> That's the start of the rant. You don't want the rest. >some of us do! tell us a story! Too off topic even for me. >also, does your rant include Windows 7? I've never used Windows 7. >I probably don't think Windows is quite as bad as you do but such >judgments depend a lot on the kind and style of work one does. That's the point. I frequently write technical stuff using TeX (Latex, actually). In openSUSE, thanks to KDE, I have one screen open with a long window (a simple wheel-click on the fullsize icon at the upper right) and one open normally. The current file being edited or written is in the long window. I do "compiles" in the small window. On a second screen I keep a copy of gv open displaying the results of the composition. On a third screen I keep open a copy of an earlier edition of the manuscript I'm working on and a window containing an instance of ispell. On a fourth screen I have a window showing my current e-mail. On a fifth one I usually have a browser for whatever needs. I always assign these things to more or less standard screens so they are all one click away. Try doing that in Windows. >(I have myself never been a Windows user. I transited to Linux from OS/2 >some yrs ago.) -- --- Paul J. Gans
From: Paul J Gans on 25 Nov 2009 14:17 houghi <houghi(a)houghi.org.invalid> wrote: >Paul J Gans wrote: >> You and I both know that there is NO automatic hardware setup that >> will work on all machines. And video setup, like sound, is one >> of the areas with the most difficulty. So why hide the YAST entry >> to fix it? >You keep asking questions here as if there were developers here to >answer them. They are not here. >So all I can do is try to imagine why they would do it and say that. >That does not mean I agree with them. I just try to explain. >If you are really interested, ask the developers themselves. >> So you see that you are right. I don't agree. >For all you know, perhaps I don't either. So now what? Now what? Well... I've learned some more about 11.2 from other folks here, I've learned where some of the configuration files are, and I've learned that others have similar feelings. The result is that I feel better about 11.2 although I'm not yet about to switch to it. -- --- Paul J. Gans
From: Paul J Gans on 25 Nov 2009 16:22 houghi <houghi(a)houghi.org.invalid> wrote: >Paul J Gans wrote: >> The result is that I feel better about 11.2 although I'm >> not yet about to switch to it. >Look at XFCE. It will take some time to configure if you are not >familiar with it, but I am amazed. Last time I looked at it, it was >unfinished, now it is done. Well now, that is good advice. Do I have to tell the developers? -- --- Paul J. Gans
From: Ulick Magee on 25 Nov 2009 17:27 Paul J Gans wrote: > In openSUSE, thanks to KDE, I have > one screen open with a long window (a simple wheel-click on the > fullsize icon at the upper right) and one open normally. I've been using KDE for years, I never knew you could do that... -- Ulick Magee Free software and free formats for free information for free people. Open Office for Windows/OSX/Linux: http://www.openoffice.org openSUSE Linux: http://en.opensuse.org
From: Will Honea on 25 Nov 2009 22:35
felmon wrote: > On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:56:05 +0000, Baron wrote: > > >> When you installed 11.1 you were offered a choice "Gnome, KDE4 and >> Other" Choose "Other" and KDE3.5 is there. You can install it from YAST >> as well. > > well, I installed 11.2 but subsequent posts suggest it is possible still > to install kd3. I'll investigate the next time I boot in. I'm wandering down that road myself. First pass was a simple upgrade install. Result: KDE4 and a mess of files just hanging around. Second effort was a clean install selecting XFCE as the DE then using YAST to add the 3.5 repo and installing from there. Marginally better but some stuff is still not quite right. Next step will be a fresh install of a command line system only. About as clean as you can get the system. From that, I'll use zypper (or cmd line yast) to add the 3.5 repo and get as clean of a 3.5 install as I can. From there I can evaluate the componets - my 11.1 system is already so bastardized from the inital upgrade from 11.0 to 11.1 back when (before I knew better) that I have a reall kludge of KDE 3 and KDE 4 apps running. My best guess is that the final result will be a KDE 3 desktop with a bunch of KDE 4 components since there are some nice improvements in some of the apps. May you live in interesting times! -- Will Honea |