From: chrisv on
mjt wrote:

>The issue I [eventually] had, was not the flamage, but the consideration
>that the advocacy was not reaching an intended audience. The SNR ratio
>would be immediately apparent to the "average joe/joan", where any
>valid post would be lost in the noise.

The poster of any Linux advocacy is immediately attacked by Wintrolls,
largely preventing rational discussions.

"Why? What's so buggy you need an entire new version? Come on
freetard fan boy, spill the beans."
- "True Linux advocate" Hadron Quark, asking why someone would be
looking forward to the next version of Ubuntu.
From: Rex Ballard on
On Jun 27, 9:58 pm, Hadron<hadronqu...(a)> wrote:
> RonB <ronb02NOS...(a)> writes:
> > Rex Ballard wrote:

> >> It's not neccessary to stand in line for your chance to get an Android
> >> powered phone.  

> > To put this in perspective, Apple pre-sold 600,000 new iPhones -- that's
> >   less than what Android now sells every four days (160,000 per day).

Google has licensed Android to some of the biggest cell phones makers,
including Motorola, HTC, Samsung, and LG. Each of those companies
sell about 1 million phones a day.

> WronG : Android is not a phone. It's an OS that most buyers dont know
> about. There are so many 'droid based phones with differ net OS versions
> now its not funny.

Google created a Linux distribution based on embedded Linux, and then
added google applications. Google is doing a great job of promoting
the Android brand, and is encouraging a wide range of players. It
reminds me of a company that several years ago sold an OS to IBM, and
then sold a nearly identical OS to other companies like Compaq,
Gateway, Dell, and numerous others.

> I look forward to you and Gortard (who is wrong
> almost as often as you), queueing up to help all the different mfrs of
> Android based phones port their proprietary front ends to Froyo ...

Many of the apps are provided by the carrier. The bigger question is
whether there will be compatibility between versions of Android and
between Android and other Linux phones such as the Palm phones.

> It's not a win for Linux.

Actually, it's like so many other wins for Linux. Nearly 4 billion
Linux devices are deployed every year, but most people don't ever seen
a Linux logo. Google is doing a good job of promoting it's brand -
and promoting it as Linux. They have already done very well with
Android, selling millions of phones in just a few months.

This has set a good stage for Chromium on ARM powered NetBooks, and
again Google is working with major players and providing a unique new
solution that should do well in the market place.

Depending on what Microsoft does, this could create the opening for
Google's offering for Linux. They recently offered a version in
Magazine form that included Ubuntu Linux, Chrome browser, and a suite
of Google apps. It was pretty impressive.

Many Linux distributions are now including Google applications in
their standard distributions. Install the Chrome browser, and then
install the Google appps. You don't get that 10 second hot-boot, and
some of the other features of Chromium, but you can definitely get a
nice suite that plays will with others (including Windows users).

The Google/Linux partnership is turning out to be quite powerful.