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From: tony cooper on 13 Jun 2010 12:27 On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 12:23:48 -0400, "Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote: >"Henry Olson" <henryolson(a)nospam.org> wrote in message >news:2pl8169kmkp1v9ralot73nd0785riv8fdm(a)4ax.com... > >> Locals claimed the reason was >> that vultures only eat carrion > >I think bringing a vulture on an airline, would save money. At $50 per bag, >I wonder how many they could eat. >OTOH Maybe the airlines are run by vultures. Carrion must fit in the overhead compartment. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
From: Peter on 13 Jun 2010 12:27 "Tim Conway" <tconway_113(a)comcast.net> wrote in message news:hv1ud9$t6e$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > "Henry Olson" <henryolson(a)nospam.org> wrote in message > news:agm816pe7401v9nqj1nahlb5qju02196o6(a)4ax.com... >> On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 21:49:16 -0400, tony cooper >> <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >> >>>On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 21:07:16 -0400, "Peter" >>><peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote: >>> >>>>OK. Yes, I just got confused between the two. I am down to three >>>>candidates. >>>>I must get it done within the next few days as we have a planned trip to >>>>shoot puffins, next weekend. >>> >>>Is a hunting permit required? Is there a bag limit? Any recipes? >> >> When living in remote areas of the Everglades for many months I often >> wondered why there's no recipes for Vultures. Some of them would browse >> not >> more than a few feet from where I would sit at my campsite. It would be >> easy to just reach out and grab their necks. Locals claimed the reason >> was >> that vultures only eat carrion and this would make them unfit for human >> consumption. Yet I have photographic proof that they eat live fish most >> of >> the morning. Catching them just like any crane or other wading bird. >> There's lots of animals that we use for food that only eat dead things. >> In >> fact humans themselves are mostly carrion eaters (aside from the few that >> relish sashimi, sushi, and tartare recipes). Why are Vultures off the >> table? When back in civilization I searched the net for Vulture recipes, >> but the only thing I found was joke recipes. Has nobody ever tried them? >> Where they are plentiful I'd think they'd be a better source of holiday >> dinners than turkeys. They're about the same size with huge >> flight-muscles. >> >> >> p.s. For the record, when I asked locals what unusual odd green colored >> wading birds were (Green Herons in breeding plumage, which I never saw >> that >> brightly colored before) they told me they called them "Steak Birds", >> because they taste just like steak. > > Interesting about the Green Herons. I never really considered eating > them. hmmm > My guess about the vultures is that someone tried them sometime and they > tasted so bad that it was quickly forgotten and hushed up. LOL. The idea > itself is kinda repulsive - except for the ones like you said that eat the > live fish. You'd think they would taste fishy, like some ducks that eat > mostly fish. > Depends on how hungry you are. -- Peter
From: krishnananda on 13 Jun 2010 12:41 In article <hv282t$61a$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, "Tim Conway" <tconway_113(a)comcast.net> wrote: > "Allen" <allent(a)austin.rr.com> wrote in message > news:sZadnWl4YuBu44nRnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d(a)giganews.com... > > Tim Conway wrote: > > > >> > >> Interesting about the Green Herons. I never really considered eating > >> them. hmmm > >> My guess about the vultures is that someone tried them sometime and they > >> tasted so bad that it was quickly forgotten and hushed up. LOL. The idea > >> itself is kinda repulsive - except for the ones like you said that eat > >> the live fish. You'd think they would taste fishy, like some ducks that > >> eat mostly fish. > >> > >> > > > > In my part of the world they would probably taste like armadillos. For > > appetizers, some could be selected that taste like squirrel. Bur who wants > > anything that tastes like squirrel or (especially) armadillo? > > In PA some people eat squirrel pot pie. Not me. I never tasted it but > they're like rats to me, not appetizing at all. My wife's grandmother's church cookbook (also in PA) had a wonderful recipe for Field Mouse Pie. Started out "Take five or six plump field mice" -- and once I realized that meant _whole_ mice, that's as far as I got.
From: Henry Olson on 13 Jun 2010 13:05 On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 12:02:02 -0400, tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 11:11:26 -0400, "Tim Conway" ><tconway_113(a)comcast.net> wrote: > >> >>"Henry Olson" <henryolson(a)nospam.org> wrote in message >>news:pkn91617pk7dg2m758t3oaarl8394662a4(a)4ax.com... >>> On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 05:23:35 -0400, "Tim Conway" <tconway_113(a)comcast.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>"Allen" <allent(a)austin.rr.com> wrote in message >>>>news:sZadnWl4YuBu44nRnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >>>>> Tim Conway wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Interesting about the Green Herons. I never really considered eating >>>>>> them. hmmm >>>>>> My guess about the vultures is that someone tried them sometime and >>>>>> they >>>>>> tasted so bad that it was quickly forgotten and hushed up. LOL. The >>>>>> idea >>>>>> itself is kinda repulsive - except for the ones like you said that eat >>>>>> the live fish. You'd think they would taste fishy, like some ducks >>>>>> that >>>>>> eat mostly fish. >>> >>> What you state is based on speculation and unfounded stories. Until >>> someone >>> actually tries vulture, has others compare the flavor in a blind >>> taste-test, you're just passing on more stories. What I don't get is how >>> people can look at a turkey and perceive it as wonderful food; yet see a >>> turkey-vulture appearing just as odd as a turkey, actually less odd >>> looking, and be disgusted by it. >>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> In my part of the world they would probably taste like armadillos. For >>>>> appetizers, some could be selected that taste like squirrel. Bur who >>>>> wants >>>>> anything that tastes like squirrel or (especially) armadillo? >>>> >>>>In PA some people eat squirrel pot pie. Not me. I never tasted it but >>>>they're like rats to me, not appetizing at all. >>> >>> It's just social conditioning that makes you choose some foods and reject >>> others. >>> >>> Roasted squirrel on a barbeque is actually quite good. People also relish >>> frog's-legs in fine dining establishments. I too have eaten frog's-legs on >>> quite a few occasions, they make for an excellent meal. Alligator is also >>> delicious when cooked properly. I liken it to the best scallops I've ever >>> had, without that sickly-sweet flavor that scallops can sometimes have. >>> Alligators eat carrion as well for a large part of their diet. >>> >>> Now take Ling Cod for a good example of how social conditioning changes >>> people's perceptions. Considered one of the best food-fishes in most every >>> area where it is found. But in portions of the north-central USA it is >>> called the "Eel-pout" and is considered a trash fish. They even have >>> winter >>> fishing contests to see who can catch the biggest one so they can destroy >>> them all. Anyone in that region who eats it is considered fool-hardy and >>> ridiculous. >>> >>> The only conclusion that can be reached by this is that the majority of >>> people living in that area of the world are rather dim-witted, foolish, >>> and >>> wasteful. >>> >>I agree that we are conditioned by our culture as to what we like or find >>distasteful. Take gorgonzola cheese for example, I like it but I've heard >>the Chinese find it offensive - even cheese in general. Why one person will >>eat oysters, shrimp, clams, etc. but avoid eel in sushi is another example. >>I've eaten alligator in a stew at Flo's Place in Murrell's Inlet, SC. It >>was really good. (I wish I could get back there again sometime...) >> >> >Gator, which is on the menu in many places around here, is not >particularly tasty. What makes it tasty is the way that it is >prepared. What you liked were the breading, the spices, or something >else about the way it was prepared. > >Unlike beef, you can't just slap a cut of gator on the bbq and expect >it to be good without some seasoning. A little salt & pepper is about all it needs, any other spices or sauces to your liking. The best spice-blend of all goes by the name of "Everglades Seasoning". Pricey to find it online but it's fantastic for all freshwater fish and seafoods from that region, gator as well. I wish I had bought a half-case of it while living there. It's cheap on the store-shelves. Too bad you've never had alligator cooked properly. It can't be overcooked, then it gets tough in an instant. This is why most people don't like it, improper cooking, not because of any flavor problems. I brought a nice 4 lb. slab of gator tail back from the Everglades for a wild-game barbeque a friend was hosting up north. With proper instruction for him to cook it right, it was a hit with everyone. All it had on it was a light coating of flour, salt, and pepper, then lightly fried. Not even enough to consider it a "breading". The flour is just so it won't stick in the pan. I also wouldn't consider any of that to greatly change its flavor. The gator platter emptied in minutes, not a speck of it was left. People just kept asking, "Is there any more gator?" It disappeared before anyone tried any of the other wild-game meats. There was lots of bear, moose, and elk left to still keep them eating though. Steak without a pinch of salt and pepper is bland too. I guess all those store-shelves of meat-rubs, sauces, and glazes made for steaks and other cuts of beef are because it tastes so wonderful just the way it is without anything added. Personally, I find that a nice coating of minced garlic, a dusting of Lawry's seasoning, and a sprinkling of teriyaki sauce (in that order) about the most perfect (and easy) flavor-combo to put on a steak before you cook it. (Pierce the steak liberally with a fork after seasoning so the teriyaki sauce drips the garlic juice and Lawry's deeper into the cut of meat. Otherwise most of the flavors end up in the pan or coals when you turn the steak over.)
From: Tzortzakakis Dimitris on 13 Jun 2010 13:28
� "krishnananda" <krishna(a)divine-life.in.invalid> ������ ��� ������ news:krishna-A908A5.12412213062010(a)62-183-169-81.bb.dnainternet.fi... > In article <hv282t$61a$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, > "Tim Conway" <tconway_113(a)comcast.net> wrote: > >> "Allen" <allent(a)austin.rr.com> wrote in message >> news:sZadnWl4YuBu44nRnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >> > Tim Conway wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> Interesting about the Green Herons. I never really considered eating >> >> them. hmmm >> >> My guess about the vultures is that someone tried them sometime and >> >> they >> >> tasted so bad that it was quickly forgotten and hushed up. LOL. The >> >> idea >> >> itself is kinda repulsive - except for the ones like you said that eat >> >> the live fish. You'd think they would taste fishy, like some ducks >> >> that >> >> eat mostly fish. >> >> >> >> >> > >> > In my part of the world they would probably taste like armadillos. For >> > appetizers, some could be selected that taste like squirrel. Bur who >> > wants >> > anything that tastes like squirrel or (especially) armadillo? >> >> In PA some people eat squirrel pot pie. Not me. I never tasted it but >> they're like rats to me, not appetizing at all. > > My wife's grandmother's church cookbook (also in PA) had a wonderful > recipe for Field Mouse Pie. > > Started out "Take five or six plump field mice" -- and once I realized > that meant _whole_ mice, that's as far as I got. And how would you get 5 mice, if not hiring a cat to catch them? My tomcat Timoleon, brought me once a mice he had caught,obviously thinking that it was a good treat (for me). He even ate its tail in front of me. But, I've heard that Italians, during WWII in Greece, were eating cats. But, of course, they have a very tough flesh, and they needed to be cooked for days. I don't know if that's true or an urban legend. -- Tzortzakakis Dimitrios major in electrical engineering mechanized infantry reservist hordad AT otenet DOT gr |