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From: Bill Graham on 13 Jun 2010 18:09 "Tzortzakakis Dimitris" <noone(a)nospam.com> wrote in message news:hv34fq$kvq$1(a)mouse.otenet.gr... > > � "krishnananda" <krishna(a)divine-life.in.invalid> ������ ��� ������ > news:krishna-A908A5.12412213062010(a)62-183-169-81.bb.dnainternet.fi... >> In article <hv282t$61a$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, >> "Tim Conway" <tconway_113(a)comcast.net> wrote: >> >>> "Allen" <allent(a)austin.rr.com> wrote in message >>> news:sZadnWl4YuBu44nRnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >>> > Tim Conway wrote: >>> > >>> >> >>> >> Interesting about the Green Herons. I never really considered eating >>> >> them. hmmm >>> >> My guess about the vultures is that someone tried them sometime and >>> >> they >>> >> tasted so bad that it was quickly forgotten and hushed up. LOL. The >>> >> idea >>> >> itself is kinda repulsive - except for the ones like you said that >>> >> eat >>> >> the live fish. You'd think they would taste fishy, like some ducks >>> >> that >>> >> eat mostly fish. >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> > In my part of the world they would probably taste like armadillos. For >>> > appetizers, some could be selected that taste like squirrel. Bur who >>> > wants >>> > anything that tastes like squirrel or (especially) armadillo? >>> >>> In PA some people eat squirrel pot pie. Not me. I never tasted it but >>> they're like rats to me, not appetizing at all. >> >> My wife's grandmother's church cookbook (also in PA) had a wonderful >> recipe for Field Mouse Pie. >> >> Started out "Take five or six plump field mice" -- and once I realized >> that meant _whole_ mice, that's as far as I got. > And how would you get 5 mice, if not hiring a cat to catch them? My tomcat > Timoleon, brought me once a mice he had caught,obviously thinking that it > was a good treat (for me). He even ate its tail in front of me. But, I've > heard that Italians, during WWII in Greece, were eating cats. But, of > course, they have a very tough flesh, and they needed to be cooked for > days. I don't know if that's true or an urban legend. > Back in the 50's, when I was in the Navy, I was wandering around the back alleys of Hong Kong, and I went in a small restaurant there and ordered the most expensive thing on the menu. It looked like chicken, and I ate it over a bed of rice. When I left, there was an old man by the entrance who said something to me in English, so I asked him what I ate.....He looked at the menu, and said, "Cat".
From: Henry Olson on 13 Jun 2010 18:25 On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 15:01:53 -0700, "Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net> wrote: > >"Henry Olson" <henryolson(a)nospam.org> wrote in message >news:o91a16hvpupfevku6ilsld0869bufcqjfv(a)4ax.com... >> On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 12:02:02 -0400, tony cooper >> <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >> >>>On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 11:11:26 -0400, "Tim Conway" >>><tconway_113(a)comcast.net> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>"Henry Olson" <henryolson(a)nospam.org> wrote in message >>>>news:pkn91617pk7dg2m758t3oaarl8394662a4(a)4ax.com... >>>>> On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 05:23:35 -0400, "Tim Conway" >>>>> <tconway_113(a)comcast.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>"Allen" <allent(a)austin.rr.com> wrote in message >>>>>>news:sZadnWl4YuBu44nRnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >>>>>>> Tim Conway wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Interesting about the Green Herons. I never really considered >>>>>>>> eating >>>>>>>> them. hmmm >>>>>>>> My guess about the vultures is that someone tried them sometime and >>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>> tasted so bad that it was quickly forgotten and hushed up. LOL. The >>>>>>>> idea >>>>>>>> itself is kinda repulsive - except for the ones like you said that >>>>>>>> eat >>>>>>>> the live fish. You'd think they would taste fishy, like some ducks >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> eat mostly fish. >>>>> >>>>> What you state is based on speculation and unfounded stories. Until >>>>> someone >>>>> actually tries vulture, has others compare the flavor in a blind >>>>> taste-test, you're just passing on more stories. What I don't get is >>>>> how >>>>> people can look at a turkey and perceive it as wonderful food; yet see >>>>> a >>>>> turkey-vulture appearing just as odd as a turkey, actually less odd >>>>> looking, and be disgusted by it. >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In my part of the world they would probably taste like armadillos. >>>>>>> For >>>>>>> appetizers, some could be selected that taste like squirrel. Bur who >>>>>>> wants >>>>>>> anything that tastes like squirrel or (especially) armadillo? >>>>>> >>>>>>In PA some people eat squirrel pot pie. Not me. I never tasted it but >>>>>>they're like rats to me, not appetizing at all. >>>>> >>>>> It's just social conditioning that makes you choose some foods and >>>>> reject >>>>> others. >>>>> >>>>> Roasted squirrel on a barbeque is actually quite good. People also >>>>> relish >>>>> frog's-legs in fine dining establishments. I too have eaten frog's-legs >>>>> on >>>>> quite a few occasions, they make for an excellent meal. Alligator is >>>>> also >>>>> delicious when cooked properly. I liken it to the best scallops I've >>>>> ever >>>>> had, without that sickly-sweet flavor that scallops can sometimes have. >>>>> Alligators eat carrion as well for a large part of their diet. >>>>> >>>>> Now take Ling Cod for a good example of how social conditioning changes >>>>> people's perceptions. Considered one of the best food-fishes in most >>>>> every >>>>> area where it is found. But in portions of the north-central USA it is >>>>> called the "Eel-pout" and is considered a trash fish. They even have >>>>> winter >>>>> fishing contests to see who can catch the biggest one so they can >>>>> destroy >>>>> them all. Anyone in that region who eats it is considered fool-hardy >>>>> and >>>>> ridiculous. >>>>> >>>>> The only conclusion that can be reached by this is that the majority of >>>>> people living in that area of the world are rather dim-witted, foolish, >>>>> and >>>>> wasteful. >>>>> >>>>I agree that we are conditioned by our culture as to what we like or find >>>>distasteful. Take gorgonzola cheese for example, I like it but I've >>>>heard >>>>the Chinese find it offensive - even cheese in general. Why one person >>>>will >>>>eat oysters, shrimp, clams, etc. but avoid eel in sushi is another >>>>example. >>>>I've eaten alligator in a stew at Flo's Place in Murrell's Inlet, SC. It >>>>was really good. (I wish I could get back there again sometime...) >>>> >>>> >>>Gator, which is on the menu in many places around here, is not >>>particularly tasty. What makes it tasty is the way that it is >>>prepared. What you liked were the breading, the spices, or something >>>else about the way it was prepared. >>> >>>Unlike beef, you can't just slap a cut of gator on the bbq and expect >>>it to be good without some seasoning. >> >> A little salt & pepper is about all it needs, any other spices or sauces >> to >> your liking. The best spice-blend of all goes by the name of "Everglades >> Seasoning". Pricey to find it online but it's fantastic for all freshwater >> fish and seafoods from that region, gator as well. I wish I had bought a >> half-case of it while living there. It's cheap on the store-shelves. Too >> bad you've never had alligator cooked properly. It can't be overcooked, >> then it gets tough in an instant. This is why most people don't like it, >> improper cooking, not because of any flavor problems. I brought a nice 4 >> lb. slab of gator tail back from the Everglades for a wild-game barbeque a >> friend was hosting up north. With proper instruction for him to cook it >> right, it was a hit with everyone. All it had on it was a light coating of >> flour, salt, and pepper, then lightly fried. Not even enough to consider >> it >> a "breading". The flour is just so it won't stick in the pan. I also >> wouldn't consider any of that to greatly change its flavor. The gator >> platter emptied in minutes, not a speck of it was left. People just kept >> asking, "Is there any more gator?" It disappeared before anyone tried any >> of the other wild-game meats. There was lots of bear, moose, and elk left >> to still keep them eating though. >> >> Steak without a pinch of salt and pepper is bland too. I guess all those >> store-shelves of meat-rubs, sauces, and glazes made for steaks and other >> cuts of beef are because it tastes so wonderful just the way it is without >> anything added. Personally, I find that a nice coating of minced garlic, a >> dusting of Lawry's seasoning, and a sprinkling of teriyaki sauce (in that >> order) about the most perfect (and easy) flavor-combo to put on a steak >> before you cook it. (Pierce the steak liberally with a fork after >> seasoning >> so the teriyaki sauce drips the garlic juice and Lawry's deeper into the >> cut of meat. Otherwise most of the flavors end up in the pan or coals when >> you turn the steak over.) >> >> >> >Try soaking it in teriyaki sauce overnight before cooking it....Appleby's >ships it in a plastic bag soaking in teriyaki sauce to their restaurants. >You can soak chicken thighs in teriyaki sauce overnight before cooking them >too.....Great when served over noodles or rice.......I make my own teriyaki >sauce.....1/4 soya sauce, 1/4 wine, 1/4 water, and 1/4 sugar. Adding some >onion and garlic doesn't hurt either......It is one of my favorite >spices......I also add a couple of jalapenos......... > > Fresh ginger, and the garlic, are requirements in teriyaki to make it "teriyaki". (Hint 1: fresh ginger spoils fast. Keep it in the freezer and grate it frozen. It keeps for many months, over a year if kept tight in plastic, and it grates even finer when frozen. Hint 2: dried chives lose all flavor, but chopped and frozen they retain full flavor.)
From: Peter on 13 Jun 2010 19:45 "Henry Olson" <henryolson(a)nospam.org> wrote in message news:pnma16lh2vbfv7hjncs453vej6qkf59rlo(a)4ax.com... > On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 14:51:40 -0700, "Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net> > wrote: > >> I ate turtle soup in a restaurant in Louisiana when I was a kid....It >> was >>delicious. But I haven't seen it here in the North, so I haven't eaten it >>again. > > Snapper soup is one of the best meals. It is claimed that there are about > 7 > different meat flavors and textures in a snapping turtle depending on > which > section you eat. Beef, chicken, pork, etc. flavors all from one turtle. > You > can't generally buy turtle soup. You have to catch your own and make it. > As > a kid it used to be my job to pull the turtle's neck out far enough for my > grandmother to chop off the head. I'd take a sturdy shovel-handle. Then > sitting down on the ground in front of the turtle I'd put one foot on > either side of the head, feet against the shell, carefully. (These were > large snappers, around 2 ft. across.) I'd get the turtle to bite down on > the shovel-handle held level between my two hands. Then using my legs > muscles to brace against the turtle, use all my arm and back strength to > pull the neck out far enough for the hatchet to come down. Hang it off a > tree limb by the tail for 1-2 days to bleed it out. Note: Do not play with > the head after it has been chopped off. It's still alive for quite awhile > and can easily take off a finger or two if you're not careful. > I like mock turtle soup. But, my efforts to find mock turtles have not been successful. -- Peter
From: Tim Conway on 13 Jun 2010 20:05 "Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote in message news:4c156da7$0$5532$8f2e0ebb(a)news.shared-secrets.com... > "Henry Olson" <henryolson(a)nospam.org> wrote in message > news:pnma16lh2vbfv7hjncs453vej6qkf59rlo(a)4ax.com... >> On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 14:51:40 -0700, "Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net> >> wrote: >> > > >>> I ate turtle soup in a restaurant in Louisiana when I was a kid....It >>> was >>>delicious. But I haven't seen it here in the North, so I haven't eaten it >>>again. >> >> Snapper soup is one of the best meals. It is claimed that there are about >> 7 >> different meat flavors and textures in a snapping turtle depending on >> which >> section you eat. Beef, chicken, pork, etc. flavors all from one turtle. >> You >> can't generally buy turtle soup. You have to catch your own and make it. >> As >> a kid it used to be my job to pull the turtle's neck out far enough for >> my >> grandmother to chop off the head. I'd take a sturdy shovel-handle. Then >> sitting down on the ground in front of the turtle I'd put one foot on >> either side of the head, feet against the shell, carefully. (These were >> large snappers, around 2 ft. across.) I'd get the turtle to bite down on >> the shovel-handle held level between my two hands. Then using my legs >> muscles to brace against the turtle, use all my arm and back strength to >> pull the neck out far enough for the hatchet to come down. Hang it off a >> tree limb by the tail for 1-2 days to bleed it out. Note: Do not play >> with >> the head after it has been chopped off. It's still alive for quite awhile >> and can easily take off a finger or two if you're not careful. >> > > I like mock turtle soup. > But, my efforts to find mock turtles have not been successful. > If you stand on the shore and taunt them while they are on the log, does that help?
From: Peter on 13 Jun 2010 20:24
"Tim Conway" <tconway_113(a)comcast.net> wrote in message news:hv3roq$1a0$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > "Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote in message > news:4c156da7$0$5532$8f2e0ebb(a)news.shared-secrets.com... >> "Henry Olson" <henryolson(a)nospam.org> wrote in message >> news:pnma16lh2vbfv7hjncs453vej6qkf59rlo(a)4ax.com... >>> On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 14:51:40 -0700, "Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net> >>> wrote: >>> >> >> >>>> I ate turtle soup in a restaurant in Louisiana when I was a kid....It >>>> was >>>>delicious. But I haven't seen it here in the North, so I haven't eaten >>>>it >>>>again. >>> >>> Snapper soup is one of the best meals. It is claimed that there are >>> about 7 >>> different meat flavors and textures in a snapping turtle depending on >>> which >>> section you eat. Beef, chicken, pork, etc. flavors all from one turtle. >>> You >>> can't generally buy turtle soup. You have to catch your own and make it. >>> As >>> a kid it used to be my job to pull the turtle's neck out far enough for >>> my >>> grandmother to chop off the head. I'd take a sturdy shovel-handle. Then >>> sitting down on the ground in front of the turtle I'd put one foot on >>> either side of the head, feet against the shell, carefully. (These were >>> large snappers, around 2 ft. across.) I'd get the turtle to bite down on >>> the shovel-handle held level between my two hands. Then using my legs >>> muscles to brace against the turtle, use all my arm and back strength to >>> pull the neck out far enough for the hatchet to come down. Hang it off a >>> tree limb by the tail for 1-2 days to bleed it out. Note: Do not play >>> with >>> the head after it has been chopped off. It's still alive for quite >>> awhile >>> and can easily take off a finger or two if you're not careful. >>> >> >> I like mock turtle soup. >> But, my efforts to find mock turtles have not been successful. >> > If you stand on the shore and taunt them while they are on the log, does > that help? > I've been interested in aquaculture. I wonder if I could find investors in a mock turtle breeding farm. I have a suitable location. It's a mock water column lease, 250 yds from the shore of a mock island. -- Peter Don't mock my idea |