What's your guys' take on Moving Dimensions Theory? Vs. String Theory / LQG?
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From: cjcountess on 7 Nov 2009 16:58 You know, I have heard of electron mass, time frequency cycle, and length, being possible basic unites "natural", of nature, but with the idea of electron as having no definitive structure, reducing it to point particle and probibility wave, this was not clearly defined either, and on top of that, the Planck scale which is also said to represent this equating, (c, h/2pi, and G), gives rise to a mass, length, and time, that fits noting known in nature, and is way out of reach of expeirimental verification. But now with the geometrical interpretation of (E=mc^2) as measure of basic unit, the electron being its physical manifestation, I can clearly see this. As sush (c^2 ( must be the factor and basic quantum unit of the size, age, and length of the universe also as the universe is a multiple of c^2. Now it is clear. Conrad J Countess
From: Ahmed Ouahi, Architect on 7 Nov 2009 21:20 However, according to a planck's units of a time to an age of an universe, which would be an equal or more than 10coef. 60, as the size of the univertse as its mass also which would be an equal or more than 10coef. 60... For the time being, when the density of the universe would be an equal or more than 10coef. - 120, and the temperature of the universe, certainly taken at three degree above an absolute zero, would be an equal or more than 10coef. -30, as all those units according to planck, would concern the visible universe... Therefore, as it is already known, for instance, that, when you do double the distance between two objects an attraction among them becomes four times weaker, otherwise, it would be something that would be formulated as follows : F = G Mm _____ r� However, as it should be paid an adequate attention to the fact, that any physical constant along the number n along the dimensions of its own spaces E, would a directly take to the function, which would also be as follows : f(n) = n�(n� + 1)/2 Therefore, as a just you should aware, that can moves along two direction which would be up to you, as to which kind of calculation, you do attempt to, as also up to you, when you calculation would requires a degree three along a polynomial equations, along which any result would be a doubling, something which would take also to a complex solutions, as also as follows I would be adding to you below, which would necessary to you what would follows: A system of Polynomial Equations http://www.rimey.com/rimey/papers/sigsam.pdf -- Ahmed Ouahi, Architect Best Regards! "cjcountess" <cjcountess(a)yahoo.com> kirjoitti viestiss�:ebe211e3-4c7f-4d54-a35f-aed47ca966b2(a)d21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... > You know, I have heard of electron mass, time frequency cycle, and > length, being possible basic unites "natural", of nature, but with the > idea of electron as having no definitive structure, reducing it to > point particle and probibility wave, this was not clearly defined > either, and on top of that, the Planck scale which is also said to > represent this equating, (c, h/2pi, and G), gives rise to a mass, > length, and time, that fits noting known in nature, and is way out of > reach of expeirimental verification. But now with the geometrical > interpretation of (E=mc^2) as measure of basic unit, the electron > being its physical manifestation, I can clearly see this. As sush (c^2 > ( must be the factor and basic quantum unit of the size, age, and > length of the universe also as the universe is a multiple of c^2. Now > it is clear. > > > Conrad J Countess
From: cjcountess on 8 Nov 2009 13:42 Than you Ahmed, I will look at it. Shakespeare I pointed out some similaritys, which are things I agree with in your theory, and now I like to ask a question about something that I do not agree with, because it makes no sense to me. It could very well be correct, I dont know, help me to understand. How is it that you say a single photon expands spherically, which to me means, increases in size, and yet maintain the constant wavelength and amplitude, not counting its moving in and out of gravity fields, which would lengthen and shorten its wavelength, but not change its amplitude? This is just one of many questions that I have, and please feel free to ask me about my theory. Conrad J Countess
From: cjcountess on 8 Nov 2009 14:25 Ahmed, If we use the electron mass, time frequency cycle, and length, which are equal to c^2, according to my own geometrical interpretation of E=mc^2 = E=mc^circled and are the real natural Planck units which are also equal to (c^2 = h/2pi = G), you get different results than if you use (c = h/2pi = G), which gives length of 1.6.10-35m, time of 10-43s, and mass which matches no known particle in nature. So it depends on which Planck units one uses, the ones built on (c,h/ 2pi,G) which get you this complication or (c^2 = G = h/2pi) for which we have a natural object as it manifestation which is electron and a simple conversion factor (c^2 as c^circled = to h/2pi = hx2pi because at this (1/1=1x1=1)= G) If we use the electron mass length and time as basic units I am not sure what the measurements will be but I bet they would be more correct that using what are traditionally considered Planck units which as I said are the equating of (c, h/2pi, G), when it should simply be (c^2 = h/2pi = G) or simply c^2 the Universe age length and time will be a multiple of c^2. http://graham.main.nc.us/~bhammel/PHYS/planckunits.htm http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/planck/node2.html http://abyss.uoregon.edu/~js/glossary/planck_time.html http://graham.main.nc.us/~bhammel/PHYS/planckmass.html Conrad J Countess
From: dre on 8 Nov 2009 14:35
On Oct 27, 2:47 pm, shakespeare physics <shakespearephys...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > What's your guys' take on Moving Dimensions Theory? Seems it has a lot > going for it based on this table (how accurate is this table?) > > [url]http://www.fqxi.org/data/forum-attachments/ > Moving_Dimensions_Theory__Heros_Journey_Physics.pdf[/url] > > [url]http://www.fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/511[/url] > > What is Ultimately Possible in Physics? Physics! A Hero's Journey with > Galileo, Newton, Faraday, Maxwell, Planck, Einstein, Schrodinger, > Bohr, and the Greats towards Moving Dimensions Theory. E pur si muove! > by Dr. Elliot McGucken > > ABSTRACT: > Over the past few decades prominent physicists have noted that physics > has diverged away from its heroic journey defined by boldly > describing, fathoming, and characterizing foundational truths of > physical reality via simple, elegant, logically-consistent postulates > and equations humbling themselves before empirical reality. Herein the > spirit of physics is again exalted by the heroic words of the Greats- > by Galileo, Newton, Faraday, Maxwell, Planck, Einstein, Bohr, and > Schrodinger-the Founding Fathers upon whose shoulders physics stands. > And from that pinnacle, a novel physical theory is proposed, complete > with a novel physical model celebrating a hitherto unsung universal > invariant and an equation reflecting the foundational physical reality > of a fourth dimension expanding relative to the three spatial > dimensions at the rate of c, or dx4/dt=ic, providing both the > "elementary foundations" for relativity and QM's "characteristic > trait"-entanglement, and its nonlocal, probabilistic nature. From > MDT's experimentally-verified equation relativity is derived while > time is unfrozen and free will exalted, while a physical model > accounting for quantum nonlocality is presented. Entropy, Huygens' > Principle; the wave/particle, energy/mass, space/time, and E/B > dualities; and time and all its arrows and asymmetries emerge from a > common, foundational physical model. MDT exalts Einstein's "empirical > facts," "naturalness," and "logical simplicity." For the first time in > the history of relativity, change is woven into the fabric of space- > time, and the timeless, ageless, nonlocal photon of Galileo's/ > Einstein's "empirical world" is explained via a foundational physical > model, alongside the fact that c is both constant and the maximum > velocity in the universe. The empirical GPS clocks' time dilation/ > twins paradox is resolved by proposing a frame of absolute rest-the > three spatial dimensions, and a frame of absolute motion-the fourth > expanding dimension upon which ageless photons of zero rest mass surf; > which underlie and give rise to Einstein's Principle of Relativity. > > When the solution is simple, God is answering. -Einstein > If, relative to K, K' is a uniformly moving co-ordinate system devoid > of rotation, then natural phenomena run their course with respect to > K' according to exactly the same general laws as with respect to K. > This statement is called the principle of relativity. -Einstein, 1954 > > No great discovery was ever made without a bold guess. -Newton > For an idea that does not at first seem insane, there is no hope. - > Einstein > If I have seen further than others, it is by standing upon the > shoulders of giants. -Newton > In questions of science, the authority of thousands is not worth the > humble reasoning of one individual. -Galileo > Books on physics are full of complicated mathematical formulae. But > thought and ideas (the fourth dimension is expanding relative to the > three spatial dimensions at c), not formulae, are the beginning of > every physical theory. -Einstein/Infeld, The Evolution of Physics > > But before mankind could be ripe for a science which takes in the > whole of reality, a second fundamental truth was needed, which only > became common property among philosophers with the advent of Kepler > and Galileo. Pure logical thinking cannot yield us any knowledge of > the empirical world; all knowledge of reality starts from experience > and ends in it. Propositions arrived at by purely logical means are > completely empty as regards reality. Because Galileo saw this, and > particularly because he drummed it into the scientific world, he is > the father of modern physics-indeed, of modern science altogether. - > Einstein , Ideas and Opinions > Epur si muove - (And yet it does move.) -Galileo > .. my dear Kepler, what do you think of the foremost philosophers of > this University? In spite of my oft-repeated efforts and invitations, > they have refused, with the obstinacy of a glutted adder, to look at > the planets or Moon or my telescope. -Galileo > A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents > and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents > eventually die, and a new generation grows up with it. -Planck > ...my observations have convinced me that some men, reasoning > preposterously, first establish some conclusion in their minds which, > either because of its being their own or because of their having > received it from some person who has their entire confidence, > impresses them so deeply that one finds it impossible ever to get it > out of their heads. Such arguments in support of their fixed idea ... > gain their instant acceptance ... whatever is brought forward against > it, however ingenious and conclusive, they receive with disdain or > with hot rage ... Beside themselves with passion, some of them would > not be backward even about scheming to suppress and silence their > adversaries.... No good can come of dealing with such people . . . > their company may be not only unpleasant but dangerous. -Galileo > Millions saw the apple fall, but Newton was the one who asked why. - > Baruch > What is Possible in Physics? Physics! Moving Dimensions Theory > We are to admit no more causes of natural things than such as are both > true and sufficient to explain their appearances. -Newton > Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler. - > Einstein > A physical theory can be satisfactory only if its structures are > composed of elementary foundations. The theory of relativity is > ultimately as little satisfactory as, for example, classical > thermodynamics was before Boltzmann had interpreted the entropy as > probability. -Einstein > When two systems, of which we know the states by their respective > representatives, enter into temporary physical interaction due to > known forces between them, and when after a time of mutual influence > the systems separate again, then they can no longer be described in > the same way as before, viz. by endowing each of them with a > representative of its own. I would not call that one but rather the > characteristic trait of quantum mechanics, the one that enforces its > entire departure from classical lines of thought. By the interaction > the two representatives [the quantum states] have become entangled. - > Schrodinger > MDT provides both the "elementary foundations" of relativity that > Einstein yet sought, and the foundational physical reality underlying > and causing quantum nonlocality and entanglement, which Schrodinger > labeled the "characteristic trait" of QM. Einstein's Principle of > Relativity, as well as his two postulates, derive from MDT's simple > physical model (Fig. 1) and single postulate which is more concise and > has the added benefits of providing for free will, liberating us from > the block universe, weaving change into the fundamental fabric of > space-time for the first time in the history of relativity, and > providing an elementary, foundational physical model for time and all > its arrows and asymmetries, entropy, and QM's nonlocality and > entanglement, as well as reality's probabilistic nature. The fourth > dimension is inherently nonlocal via its invariant expansion, which is > the source of nonlocality as well as relativity. All of this is more > fully developed in Dr. E's 2008 paper on MDT which examines Einstein's > 1912 Manuscript on Relativity and derives relativity from MDT's dx4/ > dt=ic: Time as an Emergent Phenomenon: Traveling Back to the Heroic > Age of Physics: fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/238 & fqxi.org/ > community/forum/topic/432. > Simple, logical proofs of MDT: > > MDT PROOF#1: Relativity tells us that a timeless, ageless photon > remains in one place in the fourth dimension. Quantum mechanics tells > us that a photon propagates as a spherically-symmetric expanding > wavefront at the velocity of c. Ergo, the fourth dimension must be > expanding relative to the three spatial dimensions at the rate of c, > in a spherically-symmetric manner. The expansion of the fourth > dimension is the source of nonlocality, entanglement, time and all its > arrows and asymmetries, c, relativity, entropy, free will, and all > motion, change, and measurement, for no measurement can be made > without change. For the first time in the history of relativity, > change has been wedded to the fundamental fabric of spacetime in MDT. > MDT PROOF#2: Einstein (1912 Man. on Rel.) and Minkowski wrote x4=ict. > Ergo dx4/dt=ic. > MDT PROOF#3: The only way to stay stationary in the three spatial > dimensions is to move at c through the fourth dimension. The only way > to stay stationary in the fourth dimension is to move at c through the > three spatial dimensions. Ergo the fourth dimension is moving at c > relative to the three spatial dimensions. > MDT twitter proof (limited to 140 characters): SR: photon is > stationary in 4th dimension. QM: photon is probability wave expanding > @ c. Ergo: 4th dimension expands @ c & MDT: dx4/dt=ic -from [url]http://twitter.com/45surf[/url] > > A people that were to honor falsehood, defamation, fraud, and murder > would be unable, indeed, to subsist for very long. -Einstein > > MDT Sides With the Simplicity of the Heroic Greats in Word, Equation, > and Deed > MDT presents a new universal invariant reflecting a foundational > physical reality of a fourth expanding dimension-an elementary law > from which Einstein's Principle of Relativity can be built by pure > deduction. Begin with a universe with four dimensions x1, x2, x3, x4 > where the fourth dimension is expanding relative to the three spatial > dimensions at the rate of c, ... > > read more » Can anyone refute any of these proofs? "Simple, logical proofs of MDT: MDT PROOF#1: Relativity tells us that a timeless, ageless photon remains in one place in the fourth dimension. Quantum mechanics tells us that a photon propagates as a spherically-symmetric expanding wavefront at the velocity of c. Ergo, the fourth dimension must be expanding relative to the three spatial dimensions at the rate of c, in a spherically-symmetric manner. The expansion of the fourth dimension is the source of nonlocality, entanglement, time and all its arrows and asymmetries, c, relativity, entropy, free will, and all motion, change, and measurement, for no measurement can be made without change. For the first time in the history of relativity, change has been wedded to the fundamental fabric of spacetime in MDT. MDT PROOF#2: Einstein (1912 Man. on Rel.) and Minkowski wrote x4=ict. Ergo dx4/dt=ic. MDT PROOF#3: The only way to stay stationary in the three spatial dimensions is to move at c through the fourth dimension. The only way to stay stationary in the fourth dimension is to move at c through the three spatial dimensions. Ergo the fourth dimension is moving at c relative to the three spatial dimensions. MDT twitter proof (limited to 140 characters): SR: photon is stationary in 4th dimension. QM: photon is probability wave expanding @ c. Ergo: 4th dimension expands @ c & MDT: dx4/dt=ic -from [url] http://twitter.com/45surf[/url] " |