From: Rob on
On 4/02/2010 1:36 PM, keithr wrote:
> On 4/02/2010 12:37 AM, Green Lantern wrote:
>
>>>
>>
>> Labour are sure good at wasting money.
>>
>>
> Sure, lets not mention the billion dollars that the coalition wasted
> trying to convert a bunch of clapped out second hand 60s helicopters to
> function in the 21st century. When it comes to wasting money, they are
> all as bad as each other.


Who ordered those helicopters?
From: Addinall on
On Feb 4, 1:51 pm, Rob <mesam...(a)google.com> wrote:
> On 4/02/2010 1:36 PM, keithr wrote:
>
> > On 4/02/2010 12:37 AM, Green Lantern wrote:
>
> >> Labour are sure good at wasting money.
>
> > Sure, lets not mention the billion dollars that the coalition wasted
> > trying to convert a bunch of clapped out second hand 60s helicopters to
> > function in the 21st century. When it comes to wasting money, they are
> > all as bad as each other.
>
> Who ordered those helicopters?

Liberal Party.

Mark Addinall.
From: Rod Speed on
keithr wrote:
> On 4/02/2010 12:37 AM, Green Lantern wrote:
>> " Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
>> "<""theoldfool\"@kangarooistan.com.au is a stupid arselifting troll
>> ."> wrote in message
>> news:00f2ce91$0$15581$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com...
>>> http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/failed-broadband-plan-cost-30-million-20100203-ndd8.html
>>>
>>> The KRudd government's $4.7 billion plan for a fibre-to-the-node
>>> (FTTN) national broadband network was unlikely ever to succeed due
>>> to a number of significant risks, a report has found.
>>>
>>> A National Audit Office inquiry has also found the failed tender
>>> process came at a cost to taxpayers and project proponents of more
>>> than $30 million.
>>>
>>> The FTTN plan was abandoned in April last year and replaced with
>>> the $42 billion fibre-to-the-premises option after it was
>>> determined none of the proposals submitted met government
>>> expectations. However, the audit office on Wednesday said the government had been
>>> given "early advice" about key risks to the success of the request
>>> for proposals process for the FTTN plan.
>>>
>>> Among those key risks, a non-Telstra proposal was unlikely to build
>>> and operate a commercially viable NBN in circumstances where the
>>> proponent might have to pay the telco to use its existing
>>> infrastructure. Telstra had been excluded from the tender process after failing to
>>> submit a small-business plan as part of its proposal.
>>>
>>> The government was also warned the global financial crisis had
>>> significantly reduced the prospects of a successful outcome by
>>> affecting the viability of proposals, and that there was limited
>>> scope to upgrade a FTTN network.
>>>
>>> Despite its observations, the audit office has not made any
>>> recommendations because of the termination of the request for
>>> proposals process.
>>>
>>> It did, however, raise concerns that the process had come at a cost
>>> to the government and proponents in excess of $30 million,
>>> including some $17 million for the Department of Broadband,
>>> Communications and the Digital Economy.
>>>
>>> Companies bidding to build the network were left out of pocket by
>>> between $1 million and $8 million.
>>>
>>> Opposition communications spokesman Tony Smith said the report
>>> showed the entire process had been fatally flawed.
>>>
>>> Mr Smith said Communications Minister Stephen Conroy had "ensured
>>> more than $30 million went down the drain".
>>>
>>> "It is also clear the minister ignored increasing warnings that the
>>> process was failing."
>>>
>>> The report should ring alarm bells for Australians about the
>>> failure of the Rudd government to assess risk and ensure value for
>>> money, Mr Smith said.
>>>
>>
>> Labour are sure good at wasting money.
>>
>>
> Sure, lets not mention the billion dollars that the coalition wasted
> trying to convert a bunch of clapped out second hand 60s helicopters
> to function in the 21st century.

> When it comes to wasting money, they are all as bad as each other.

Like hell they are. We wont see a surplus any time soon, you watch.


From: Rod Speed on
Pretzl wrote:
> On Thu, 04 Feb 2010 13:36:50 +1100, keithr <keithr(a)nowhere.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>>>> The report should ring alarm bells for Australians about the
>>>> failure of the Rudd government to assess risk and ensure value for
>>>> money, Mr Smith said.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Labour are sure good at wasting money.
>>>
>>>
>> Sure, lets not mention the billion dollars that the coalition wasted
>> trying to convert a bunch of clapped out second hand 60s helicopters
>> to function in the 21st century. When it comes to wasting money,
>> they are all as bad as each other.
>
> It's not wasted money to install fibre optic through the nation
> This is something that needed doing years ago
> Copper wire just don't cut it.

> It has left major parts of Australian capital cities without even dial-up let alone broadband

Another pig ignorant lie.

> I were in NZ a while ago and found even isolated small communities
> without telephone exchanges simply had the copper wire connected to a
> optic fibre point and they had no trouble with broadband and their
> exchanges were at least 30 miles 40 kilometre's away. In Australia
> unless you are within 2 kilometre's of an exchange your "broadband"
> struggles

Another pig ignorant lie.

> The Labor Party is dressing up a need of the nation as a "National
> Broadband Network" (NBN) that should of taken place yonks ago, as it
> has everywhere on the planet, except Australia and Uganda

Another pig ignorant lie.


From: Epsilon on
Petzl wrote:
>
>
> I were in NZ a while ago


That would be you and the voices, chasing sheep?
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