From: Pete on
On 2010-06-05 21:05:58 +0100, Mike Russell said:

> On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 11:17:36 -0700, C J Campbell wrote:
>
>> On 2010-06-04 08:02:55 -0700, Mike Russell
>> <groupsRE(a)MOVEcurvemeister.com> said:
>>
>>> On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 07:59:27 -0700, C J Campbell wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2010-06-03 13:49:27 -0700, Mike Russell
>>>> <groupsRE(a)MOVEcurvemeister.com> said:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 11:00:29 -0700, C J Campbell wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, I am not making fun of him. I seriously believe he needs help.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you really believe that, then why make things more painful by using
>>>>> medical terminology to ridicule him in public?
>>>>
>>>> What makes you think I am ridiculing him?
>>>
>>> Call it what you want.
>>
>> I have no intention of evoking "contemptuous laughter at or feelings"
>> toward anyone. Again, what makes you think that I was laughing at him
>> or trying to get anyone else to laugh at him?
>>
>> rid·i·cule
>> n.
>> Words or actions intended to evoke contemptuous laughter at or feelings
>> toward a person or thing: "I know that ridicule may be a shield, but it
>> is not a weapon" (Dorothy Parker).
>> tr.v. rid·i·culed, rid·i·cul·ing, rid·i·cules
>> To expose to ridicule; make fun of.
>
> Since you are asking, I'm inclined to give you the benefit of the doubt.
> Please consider, though, that it can be hurtful to discuss a person's
> medical problems, and especially alleged psychological problems, in a
> public forum, whatever your intentions.

Well said.

The humble teaspoon, a fire extinguisher, and psychology were never
intended to be used as weapons. Unfortunately, they will continue to be
used for adverse purposes.

When someone understands psychology, via either their first formal
training or treatment session, they will be fully informed about what
it is not to be used for.

Psychological terms bandied about in a public forum are scientifically
meaningless yet their implications can be very significant, even to the
point of being fatal.

--
Pete

From: C J Campbell on
On 2010-06-05 15:08:03 -0700, Pete <available.on.request(a)aserver.invalid> said:

> On 2010-06-05 21:05:58 +0100, Mike Russell said:
>
>> On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 11:17:36 -0700, C J Campbell wrote:
>>
>>> On 2010-06-04 08:02:55 -0700, Mike Russell
>>> <groupsRE(a)MOVEcurvemeister.com> said:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 07:59:27 -0700, C J Campbell wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2010-06-03 13:49:27 -0700, Mike Russell
>>>>> <groupsRE(a)MOVEcurvemeister.com> said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 11:00:29 -0700, C J Campbell wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Actually, I am not making fun of him. I seriously believe he needs help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you really believe that, then why make things more painful by using
>>>>>> medical terminology to ridicule him in public?
>>>>>
>>>>> What makes you think I am ridiculing him?
>>>>
>>>> Call it what you want.
>>>
>>> I have no intention of evoking "contemptuous laughter at or feelings"
>>> toward anyone. Again, what makes you think that I was laughing at him
>>> or trying to get anyone else to laugh at him?
>>>
>>> rid�i�cule
>>> n.
>>> Words or actions intended to evoke contemptuous laughter at or feelings
>>> toward a person or thing: "I know that ridicule may be a shield, but it
>>> is not a weapon" (Dorothy Parker).
>>> tr.v. rid�i�culed, rid�i�cul�ing, rid�i�cules
>>> To expose to ridicule; make fun of.
>>
>> Since you are asking, I'm inclined to give you the benefit of the doubt.
>> Please consider, though, that it can be hurtful to discuss a person's
>> medical problems, and especially alleged psychological problems, in a
>> public forum, whatever your intentions.
>
> Well said.
>
> The humble teaspoon, a fire extinguisher, and psychology were never
> intended to be used as weapons. Unfortunately, they will continue to be
> used for adverse purposes.
>
> When someone understands psychology, via either their first formal
> training or treatment session, they will be fully informed about what
> it is not to be used for.
>
> Psychological terms bandied about in a public forum are scientifically
> meaningless yet their implications can be very significant, even to the
> point of being fatal.

Deliberately misinterpreting another's intentions in a public forum is
equally harmful. Continuing to do so after having been corrected is
both dishonest and deliberately harmful. You clowns can go around
claiming to know better than I do what I think and believe, but all it
proves is your own towering arrogance.

I am not interested in hurting Rich or using any weapon against him. I
think it is time we encouraged him to get help. Silence and denial will
not help Rich.

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

From: Mike Russell on
On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 07:21:35 -0700, C J Campbell wrote:

> Deliberately misinterpreting another's intentions in a public forum is
> equally harmful. Continuing to do so after having been corrected is
> both dishonest and deliberately harmful. You clowns can go around
> claiming to know better than I do what I think and believe, but all it
> proves is your own towering arrogance.

I don't question your intentions, and I said so in my previous post.

> I am not interested in hurting [name deleted] or using any weapon against him. I
> think it is time we encouraged him to get help. Silence and denial will
> not help [name deleted].

Silence is extremely appropriate in this case. I will proceed to
demonstrate with you.
--
Mike Russell - http://www.curvemeister.com