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From: David H. Lipman on 30 May 2010 00:11 From: "MEB" <MEB-not-here(a)hotmail.com> | On 05/29/2010 10:52 PM, Leythos wrote: >> In article <OFbbJH6$KHA.1068(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, MEB-not- >> here(a)hotmail.com says... >>> On 05/29/2010 10:30 PM, Leythos wrote: >>>> In article <uKARK55$KHA.1068(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, MEB-not- >>>> here(a)hotmail.com says... >>>>> Provide a shred of proof you or anyone has been legally "allowed" to >>>>> use Microsoft's property, these groups; that takes distinctive written >>>>> authorization from Microsoft. >>>> I see you still can't prove that MS owns anything in these groups, other >>>> than the copyright to the content that MS itself/employees post here, >>>> and even that's questionable in most countries. >>>> So, again, you provide nothing, you can't even prove your claim, and >>>> those of us that have worked on Usenet, been part of it, understand it, >>>> since the 80's, know that you're completely unable to support your >>>> mistaken claim. >>> You fool, I have shown you and everyone else EXACTLY what controls >>> this. All of you have *no leg to stand on*. >> LOL, and you've not shown anything. MS could say, do, jump up and down, >> and not a single Usenet server/company would have to listen to them. The >> groups can remain without permission from MS, that's the way that Usenet >> works, no peer has to accept any changes or requests if they don't want >> too and there is no legal reason for them to stop hosting these groups. | Check the group this was cross-posted to.. you will see my name [or | depending upon your reader maybe nothing, unless they now want to show | something else] as poster, no header, no message... just you quoting my | supposed post in response directly under it in the thread... I'd say | that's pretty actively controlling these groups. Look at my headers ! NOT from news.microsoft.com -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
From: MEB on 30 May 2010 00:13 On 05/30/2010 12:05 AM, David H. Lipman wrote: > From: "MEB" <MEB-not-here(a)hotmail.com> > > | On 05/29/2010 09:10 PM, Leythos wrote: >>> In article <u8el4f3$KHA.5168(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, MEB-not- >>> here(a)hotmail.com says... >>>>> You're wrong again - there is a very real structure and everything that >>>>> enters it via willing participants, unless owned by someone else, is >>>>> public domain. MS agreed to this when they started pushing their content >>>>> out to Usenet. > >>>> Microsoft never *pushed* its property anywhere. > >>>> Baseless, worthless and merit-less arguments. > > >>> And yet you can't provide anything to prove your statement, but, we can >>> easily see that they have and do. > > > | OH REALLY!!! > > | Then provide that absolute proof Microsoft "pushes" anything to usenet. > > | When you can't get that done, provide proof Microsoft authorized Usenet > | to offer its property. > > Actually, there is no "property". > There is No Microsoft software being distributed. There are just the words of people > communication over a medium. A medium that Microsft has no control over because when I > his the "send" button, this post will be repeated on servers around the world. Repeated > on servers that is NOT under the control of Microsoft. > Oh come on David I gave you more credit for intelligence... was I wrong. What you present means zero, zip, nada... what matters is the Laws applicable, and they are all in Microsoft's favor. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking http://peoplescounsel.org The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government ___---
From: David H. Lipman on 30 May 2010 00:13 From: "MEB" <MEB-not-here(a)hotmail.com> | On 05/29/2010 10:52 PM, Leythos wrote: >> In article <OFbbJH6$KHA.1068(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, MEB-not- >> here(a)hotmail.com says... >>> On 05/29/2010 10:30 PM, Leythos wrote: >>>> In article <uKARK55$KHA.1068(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, MEB-not- >>>> here(a)hotmail.com says... >>>>> Provide a shred of proof you or anyone has been legally "allowed" to >>>>> use Microsoft's property, these groups; that takes distinctive written >>>>> authorization from Microsoft. >>>> I see you still can't prove that MS owns anything in these groups, other >>>> than the copyright to the content that MS itself/employees post here, >>>> and even that's questionable in most countries. >>>> So, again, you provide nothing, you can't even prove your claim, and >>>> those of us that have worked on Usenet, been part of it, understand it, >>>> since the 80's, know that you're completely unable to support your >>>> mistaken claim. >>> You fool, I have shown you and everyone else EXACTLY what controls >>> this. All of you have *no leg to stand on*. >> LOL, and you've not shown anything. MS could say, do, jump up and down, >> and not a single Usenet server/company would have to listen to them. The >> groups can remain without permission from MS, that's the way that Usenet >> works, no peer has to accept any changes or requests if they don't want >> too and there is no legal reason for them to stop hosting these groups. | Check the group this was cross-posted to.. you will see my name [or | depending upon your reader maybe nothing, unless they now want to show | something else] as poster, no header, no message... just you quoting my | supposed post in response directly under it in the thread... I'd say | that's pretty actively controlling these groups. Look at my headers. Yet again, not from; news.microsoft.com -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
From: MEB on 30 May 2010 00:16 On 05/30/2010 12:11 AM, David H. Lipman wrote: > From: "MEB" <MEB-not-here(a)hotmail.com> > > | On 05/29/2010 10:52 PM, Leythos wrote: >>> In article <OFbbJH6$KHA.1068(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, MEB-not- >>> here(a)hotmail.com says... > >>>> On 05/29/2010 10:30 PM, Leythos wrote: >>>>> In article <uKARK55$KHA.1068(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, MEB-not- >>>>> here(a)hotmail.com says... >>>>>> Provide a shred of proof you or anyone has been legally "allowed" to >>>>>> use Microsoft's property, these groups; that takes distinctive written >>>>>> authorization from Microsoft. > > >>>>> I see you still can't prove that MS owns anything in these groups, other >>>>> than the copyright to the content that MS itself/employees post here, >>>>> and even that's questionable in most countries. > >>>>> So, again, you provide nothing, you can't even prove your claim, and >>>>> those of us that have worked on Usenet, been part of it, understand it, >>>>> since the 80's, know that you're completely unable to support your >>>>> mistaken claim. > > >>>> You fool, I have shown you and everyone else EXACTLY what controls >>>> this. All of you have *no leg to stand on*. > >>> LOL, and you've not shown anything. MS could say, do, jump up and down, >>> and not a single Usenet server/company would have to listen to them. The >>> groups can remain without permission from MS, that's the way that Usenet >>> works, no peer has to accept any changes or requests if they don't want >>> too and there is no legal reason for them to stop hosting these groups. > > > | Check the group this was cross-posted to.. you will see my name [or > | depending upon your reader maybe nothing, unless they now want to show > | something else] as poster, no header, no message... just you quoting my > | supposed post in response directly under it in the thread... I'd say > | that's pretty actively controlling these groups. > > Look at my headers ! > > NOT from news.microsoft.com > Guys and Gals, none of anything you present means squat... what matters is the Law. How dense can you people be... -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking http://peoplescounsel.org The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government ___---
From: David H. Lipman on 30 May 2010 00:19
From: "MEB" <MEB-not-here(a)hotmail.com> | Oh come on David I gave you more credit for intelligence... was I wrong. | What you present means zero, zip, nada... what matters is the Laws | applicable, and they are all in Microsoft's favor. Bullsh!t -- Just plain Bullsh!t. You are really way out in left field here. There is no bleeding property. Any "law" you may bring up is just not applicable here. -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp |