From: "FromTheRafters" erratic on 29 May 2010 16:11 "MEB" <MEB-not-here(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:eQFdWR2$KHA.5848(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... [...] Usenet is not a site, and its content is not Microsoft's property.
From: MEB on 29 May 2010 16:25 On 05/29/2010 03:58 PM, FromTheRafters wrote: > "MEB" <MEB-not-here(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:e3uTS71$KHA.348(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> On 05/29/2010 02:35 PM, Leythos wrote: >>> In article <#Z62g$s$KHA.1068(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, MEB-not- >>> here(a)hotmail.com says... >>>> The Notice and everything else applying to usage, deals with and >>>> defines the public's ability to use any of Microsoft's property. >>>> These >>>> groups, the hierarchy, and presentation are Microsoft's property. >>>> >>> >>> Sorry, you're wrong. >>> >>> MS only owns the groups that reside on MS's own hardware/network, all >>> others (as in every other server that contains them) are the property >>> and domain of the company that runs that usenet server. >>> >> >> Sorry your entirely wrong. Since any other "vendors", "companies" or >> other, even individual users are BOUND by Microsoft's allowance of >> usage, any other usage is illegal. > > They can do what they will with their own servers. Once they peered with > usenet at large, they lost any hopes of controlling content usage. > Usenet being 'in the cloud' as it were, and the way things are stored > and propagated. They can control their "web access to newsgroups" > thingy, but not the groups themselves. Microsoft's IIS NNTP service and > the microsoft groups are not the same thing as usenet. > > ....and it's "you're" not "your"... Mr. wordsmith. > > HA so I noticed after I sent it, it makes no difference. Microsoft did not peer *TO* Usenet/usenet so your presentation lacks value... -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking http://peoplescounsel.org The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government ___---
From: Leythos on 29 May 2010 16:25 In article <e3uTS71$KHA.348(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, MEB-not- here(a)hotmail.com says... > > On 05/29/2010 02:35 PM, Leythos wrote: > > In article <#Z62g$s$KHA.1068(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, MEB-not- > > here(a)hotmail.com says... > >> The Notice and everything else applying to usage, deals with and > >> defines the public's ability to use any of Microsoft's property. These > >> groups, the hierarchy, and presentation are Microsoft's property. > >> > > > > Sorry, you're wrong. > > > > MS only owns the groups that reside on MS's own hardware/network, all > > others (as in every other server that contains them) are the property > > and domain of the company that runs that usenet server. > > > > Sorry your entirely wrong. Since any other "vendors", "companies" or > other, even individual users are BOUND by Microsoft's allowance of > usage, any other usage is illegal. You're wrong - once it's in Usenet, part of the Global Usenet, MS has no control of it. -- You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that. Trust yourself. spam999free(a)rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
From: MEB on 29 May 2010 16:28 On 05/29/2010 04:11 PM, FromTheRafters wrote: > "MEB" <MEB-not-here(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:eQFdWR2$KHA.5848(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > [...] > > Usenet is not a site, and its content is not Microsoft's property. > > But anything IN Usenet/use net/usenet it obtained elsewhere [which it does own, control, and otherwise, is NOT its property. So again, a useless claim. Microsoft OWNS its groups, the hierarchy, and the presentation as so stated BY Microsoft. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking http://peoplescounsel.org The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government ___---
From: MEB on 29 May 2010 16:35
On 05/29/2010 04:25 PM, Leythos wrote: > In article <e3uTS71$KHA.348(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, MEB-not- > here(a)hotmail.com says... >> >> On 05/29/2010 02:35 PM, Leythos wrote: >>> In article <#Z62g$s$KHA.1068(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, MEB-not- >>> here(a)hotmail.com says... >>>> The Notice and everything else applying to usage, deals with and >>>> defines the public's ability to use any of Microsoft's property. These >>>> groups, the hierarchy, and presentation are Microsoft's property. >>>> >>> >>> Sorry, you're wrong. >>> >>> MS only owns the groups that reside on MS's own hardware/network, all >>> others (as in every other server that contains them) are the property >>> and domain of the company that runs that usenet server. >>> >> >> Sorry your entirely wrong. Since any other "vendors", "companies" or >> other, even individual users are BOUND by Microsoft's allowance of >> usage, any other usage is illegal. > > You're wrong - once it's in Usenet, part of the Global Usenet, MS has no > control of it. > You people really aren't very bright. Usenet/use net/usenet never had the authority to it in any form, per Microsoft's own documents. Theft [which it essentially is] does not create ownership nor remove ownership nor any Laws pursuant the applicable materials. Unless authorized by Microsoft any use other than what has been authorized is illegal. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking http://peoplescounsel.org The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government ___--- |