From: hutch-- on
smile,

> How could he loose, if *you* refuse to assume the challenge,
> that *you* have taken?

How ould he win using RotAsm, thats why he won't download masm32 at
www.masm32.com

Why aren't you willing to help him eat that hat, you lead him astray
in the first place.

From: hutch-- on
smile,

> > The only thing trailing is your chewin to help poor Wannabee.
>
> Always glad to help poor Wannabee, but it is difficult for
> him to loose a challenge that you have taken, and that you
> refuse to assume.

You would best help poor Wannabee by chewin his hat for him as its
clear that he is afraid to download masm32 from www.masm32.com

From: hutch-- on
smile,

> > Same place as it has been since before you cobbled your toy together,
> >www.masm32.com
>
> Sorry, but this is not the challenge, that *you* have taken.
> Please, show us, so that Half could eventually eat his hat.

This is the challenge I accepted.

===========================================
7 Feb 2005 06:09:17 -0800

Come up with 10-20 diffrent examples of _complete_ (short) MASM
programs, and I will write the RosAsm equivalents. And lets compare
them. All called code must be present, except for Win32 API code.

If I cannot wrote more the 70% of the examples source code, shorter,
and easier to comprehend and read in RosAsm, I do you the favor of
eating my hat in public, and leave this NG permanently, and pubilicly
applogize for calling you an retarded demented old fagot.

Do you take the challenge Hutch ?
===========================================

Which one did you have in mind. Wannabee refuses to download masm32 at
www.masm32.com so he loses as he has not done what he claims.

When will you start chewin Wannabee's hat ?

From: //o//annabee on
P� Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:00:50 +0100, skrev hutch-- <hutch(a)movsd.com>:

> Betov,
>
>> > Come up with 10-20 diffrent examples of _complete_ (short) MASM
>> > programs, and I will write the RosAsm equivalents. And lets compare
>> > them. All called code must be present, except for Win32 API code.
>>
>> If you have accepted this challenge, why do you refuse to
>> assume it, by refusing the very first words of it?
>
> Which words ?
>
> Come
> Come up
> Come up with
> Come up with 10-20
> Come up with 10-20 diffrent
> Come up with 10-20 diffrent examples etc ......
>
> The posted link www.masm32.com has over 100 complete short masm
> programs.
>
> Will you help poor Wannabee chew that hat since no-one else would
> touch him after you have had your wicked way with him. Poor Wannabee
> lead astray by a dirty old man like Betov, shame on you Betov.

You know as well as everybody reading this ng, that Herbert took contact
with the german division of M$. And that they claimed the MASM32 download
was not legal, and that it would be illegal not only to publish, but to
_download_ it. So even if I may have wanted, and you had spesified which
files you ment me to translate, I could not do this, because of this risk.
That is _exactly_ why I wanted you to post the sources _here_, and for
them to be short, selfcontained sources, that you yourself had written.
Even if the MASM32 package had been legal, there would still be impossible
to say if it would be legal to translate some of it to RosAsm.

From: CodeMonk on
//\\o//\\annabee wrote:
>
> files present in the MASM32 download, because we have Herberts answer
> from M$ that this is illegal _even_ to download.

Ya know, that doesn't really make sense. I understand that your
Microsoft subsidiary there says that it is illegal to even download.

I read the EULA and as far as I can tell, it plainly states that
depending on where you obtain the software, local laws may apply. I
did not see anything which says it cannot be obtained from any
location other than the US or Canada.

That said, if it is illegal to download there, then there must be some
law which makes it that way. So has anyone figured out which law it
is that makes the Microsoft subsidiary there correct in their
assertion that it is illegal to download and/or use?

- Scott

PS: Side note - who is Crime&Co? Betov refers to it often, but I'll
be darned if I can figure out who he's referring to?