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From: Michael on 30 Aug 2006 04:45 Michael Kuyumcu wrote: > Hi Yao Konan, > > thanks for your interest in the Nspire. > > I have not written any tests yet (it's very new), and if/when I should > do so, it probably will be in German. I don't know whether or not I > will publish that review online or only mail it to TI. Maybe I will > publish a web URL on the HP group although it feels strange to annouce > something about a competitor's product on the HP list. > > So there are a lot of maybe's here, and I don't know if I will find the > time soon. As a teacher, there are many other things on my mind. I am > sure you will understand. > > Regards, > Michael Kuyumcu > > Yao Konan wrote: > >>Hi i am very interested by any kind of review about the TI-Nspire. >>As you have the opportunity to work with prototype could you do a >>review of these prototypes or agree to answer some questions regarding >>them ? >>Thanks. > > Post it here, it may "inspire" hp lol Cheers Mick
From: Michael Kuyumcu on 30 Aug 2006 09:55 Hi Jean-Yves, no touch sreen, just a small circular plastic pad which is sensitive to finger presses and with which you can push the pointer arrow on the screen into any direction (diagonally works, too). There are additional arrow keys which basically do the same thing but much more slowly (pixel-wise). The pointer speed is ok now, but will be too slow when I have gotten used to it, I think. There is no way to change the speed, although there are a couple of other general "system settings". The device is completely menu-driven, just like any ordinary PC, you can have any number of documents open at one time, among them a spreadsheet, which is much like Excel. It features local and global cell references, and the whole apparatus for symbolic math (the CAS core) can be used in any cell. There is an automated sequence generator for the spreadsheet, too, which is nice when doing pseudo-random test series. The basic principle is that you have a "problem" (that's how TI calls the Nspire documents, I hope the docs won't cause any) to which you can assign up to four different applications (CAS, graphics, spreadsheet, and notes). Changes in variables, definitions and so forth in any of the environments immediately and dynamically affect all assigned applications. In fact, I like the device a lot so far. It features a big clear screen, which is just a tad too dark for me and could have been coated in a way to better prevent light reflections. It seems to be programmable (there are flow control constructs, Goto Label command, and the like). I just have not written any program yet, and don't know how to (where to write it and how to run it and so on), since there is no written documentation with the calculator, and the last TI I have programmed was the TI 66. In fact, I learned programming on that calc... nostalgia... Can anyone point me to programming ressources for the Voyage or the TI-92? Maybe the systems will turn out to be similar. I have not noted any options for assembler programming (which is one of my favorite pastimes). I have found numerous graphics plotting capabilities, but none dealing with 3D so far. But then, I had the Nspire running for only 30 minutes roughly yet. Regards, Michael Kuyumcu > > Hi Michael. > > Thank you for your post. > > It looks like TI made the best use of the waiting time and created a > learning device similar to what Xpander should have been. > Is the calculator using a touch screen or like what it appears on photo > just a little joystick? if yes, how does it work? do you like it? > > Does it have a spreadsheet? how does it work? > > > Too bad HP was left behind technologically. I agree with your earlier > comments. > > Jean-Yves
From: Michael Kuyumcu on 30 Aug 2006 10:02 I'd definitely prefer a pound of care from my wife over any inventions of hers as to her whereabouts... Regards, Michael Kuyumcu John H Meyers schrieb: > Well, the more obvious slogan > for HP (800-HP-INVENT) vs. TI (800-TI-CARES) > should actually be: > > "An ounce of invention is worth a pound of care" > > [r->] [OFF]
From: Yao Konan on 30 Aug 2006 12:34 Thanks for the information. It is surprising that 3D plotting is not easily availlable as it is one of my favorite feature of those advanced calc and in fact one of the main marketing argument for the TI92 when it was introduced in 1995. For programming of the Tool assuming that it has a similar user language to the TI92,you can find some help from the TI89TI/Voyage 200 guidebook availlable from the TI site here: http://education.ti.com/educationportal/appsdelivery/download/download_eula..jsp?cid=us&displayMode=G&applicationid=6128&contentpaneid=17 Eventually i could give you additionnal help if needed as i happen to be quite strong with TI92 Basic. I think that you could write programs with the Note editor then tokenize and save them from the calculator screen. For exemple the famous Hello world: Define hello()=Prgm: Text "Hello Wolrd":EndPrgm Execute from the calculator apps,this should create the program which when called as hello() should show a window with the message. Michael Kuyumcu a écrit : > Hi Jean-Yves, > > no touch sreen, just a small circular plastic pad which is sensitive to > finger presses and with which you can push the pointer arrow on the > screen into any direction (diagonally works, too). There are additional > arrow keys which basically do the same thing but much more slowly > (pixel-wise). The pointer speed is ok now, but will be too slow when I > have gotten used to it, I think. There is no way to change the speed, > although there are a couple of other general "system settings". The > device is completely menu-driven, just like any ordinary PC, you can > have any number of documents open at one time, among them a > spreadsheet, which is much like Excel. It features local and global > cell references, and the whole apparatus for symbolic math (the CAS > core) can be used in any cell. There is an automated sequence generator > for the spreadsheet, too, which is nice when doing pseudo-random test > series. The basic principle is that you have a "problem" (that's how TI > calls the Nspire documents, I hope the docs won't cause any) to which > you can assign up to four different applications (CAS, graphics, > spreadsheet, and notes). Changes in variables, definitions and so forth > in any of the environments immediately and dynamically affect all > assigned applications. > > In fact, I like the device a lot so far. It features a big clear > screen, which is just a tad too dark for me and could have been coated > in a way to better prevent light reflections. It seems to be > programmable (there are flow control constructs, Goto Label command, > and the like). I just have not written any program yet, and don't know > how to (where to write it and how to run it and so on), since there is > no written documentation with the calculator, and the last TI I have > programmed was the TI 66. In fact, I learned programming on that > calc... nostalgia... Can anyone point me to programming ressources for > the Voyage or the TI-92? Maybe the systems will turn out to be similar. > I have not noted any options for assembler programming (which is one of > my favorite pastimes). > > I have found numerous graphics plotting capabilities, but none dealing > with 3D so far. But then, I had the Nspire running for only 30 minutes > roughly yet. > > Regards, > Michael Kuyumcu > > > > > Hi Michael. > > > > Thank you for your post. > > > > It looks like TI made the best use of the waiting time and created a > > learning device similar to what Xpander should have been. > > Is the calculator using a touch screen or like what it appears on photo > > just a little joystick? if yes, how does it work? do you like it? > > > > Does it have a spreadsheet? how does it work? > > > > > > Too bad HP was left behind technologically. I agree with your earlier > > comments. > > > > Jean-Yves
From: Michael Kuyumcu on 30 Aug 2006 17:16
Thanks, I will try that procedure. And thanks for offering assistance with TI Basic. I might get back to you on that... :) Regards, Michael Kuyumcu Yao Konan schrieb: > Thanks for the information. > It is surprising that 3D plotting is not easily availlable as it is one > of my favorite feature of those advanced calc and in fact one of the > main marketing argument for the TI92 when it was introduced in 1995. > For programming of the Tool assuming that it has a similar user > language to the TI92,you can find some help from the TI89TI/Voyage 200 > guidebook availlable from the TI site here: > http://education.ti.com/educationportal/appsdelivery/download/download_eula.jsp?cid=us&displayMode=G&applicationid=6128&contentpaneid=17 > > Eventually i could give you additionnal help if needed as i happen to > be quite strong with TI92 Basic. > I think that you could write programs with the Note editor then > tokenize and save them from the calculator screen. > For exemple the famous Hello world: > Define hello()=Prgm: > Text "Hello Wolrd":EndPrgm > Execute from the calculator apps,this should create the program which > when called as > hello() should show a window with the message. > > Michael Kuyumcu a écrit : > > > Hi Jean-Yves, > > > > no touch sreen, just a small circular plastic pad which is sensitive to > > finger presses and with which you can push the pointer arrow on the > > screen into any direction (diagonally works, too). There are additional > > arrow keys which basically do the same thing but much more slowly > > (pixel-wise). The pointer speed is ok now, but will be too slow when I > > have gotten used to it, I think. There is no way to change the speed, > > although there are a couple of other general "system settings". The > > device is completely menu-driven, just like any ordinary PC, you can > > have any number of documents open at one time, among them a > > spreadsheet, which is much like Excel. It features local and global > > cell references, and the whole apparatus for symbolic math (the CAS > > core) can be used in any cell. There is an automated sequence generator > > for the spreadsheet, too, which is nice when doing pseudo-random test > > series. The basic principle is that you have a "problem" (that's how TI > > calls the Nspire documents, I hope the docs won't cause any) to which > > you can assign up to four different applications (CAS, graphics, > > spreadsheet, and notes). Changes in variables, definitions and so forth > > in any of the environments immediately and dynamically affect all > > assigned applications. > > > > In fact, I like the device a lot so far. It features a big clear > > screen, which is just a tad too dark for me and could have been coated > > in a way to better prevent light reflections. It seems to be > > programmable (there are flow control constructs, Goto Label command, > > and the like). I just have not written any program yet, and don't know > > how to (where to write it and how to run it and so on), since there is > > no written documentation with the calculator, and the last TI I have > > programmed was the TI 66. In fact, I learned programming on that > > calc... nostalgia... Can anyone point me to programming ressources for > > the Voyage or the TI-92? Maybe the systems will turn out to be similar. > > I have not noted any options for assembler programming (which is one of > > my favorite pastimes). > > > > I have found numerous graphics plotting capabilities, but none dealing > > with 3D so far. But then, I had the Nspire running for only 30 minutes > > roughly yet. > > > > Regards, > > Michael Kuyumcu > > > > > > > > Hi Michael. > > > > > > Thank you for your post. > > > > > > It looks like TI made the best use of the waiting time and created a > > > learning device similar to what Xpander should have been. > > > Is the calculator using a touch screen or like what it appears on photo > > > just a little joystick? if yes, how does it work? do you like it? > > > > > > Does it have a spreadsheet? how does it work? > > > > > > > > > Too bad HP was left behind technologically. I agree with your earlier > > > comments. > > > > > > Jean-Yves |