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From: Cholo Lennon on 22 Feb 2010 11:55 Ajay Kalra wrote: > On Feb 22, 10:54 am, Joseph M. Newcomer <newco...(a)flounder.com> wrote: >> There are more VC++ developers than VB or C#. Again, unclassified industry data. >> (Actually, this surprised me, because about ten years ago, the balance was quite >> different). > > That doesnt sound right. I believe VB developers easily surpassed C++ > 10 years ago. I would be surprised if thats not the case with C# > today. Where I work now (and for last 5+ years), we have gone from > 100% C++ to less than 30% C++. GUI is completely out of C++ and has > been for many years. > > -- > Ajay > > > Well, this index doesn't represent the absolute truth, but you can get an idea about the popularity of programming languages: http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html Acording to this index (9 years old), VB was never as popular as C++ (besides other variables, IMHO popularity is thightly coupled to the number of developers) Regards -- Cholo Lennon Bs.As. ARG
From: Cholo Lennon on 22 Feb 2010 12:04 Cholo Lennon wrote: > Ajay Kalra wrote: >> On Feb 22, 10:54 am, Joseph M. Newcomer <newco...(a)flounder.com> wrote: >>> There are more VC++ developers than VB or C#. Again, unclassified >>> industry data. >>> (Actually, this surprised me, because about ten years ago, the >>> balance was quite >>> different). >> >> That doesnt sound right. I believe VB developers easily surpassed C++ >> 10 years ago. I would be surprised if thats not the case with C# >> today. Where I work now (and for last 5+ years), we have gone from >> 100% C++ to less than 30% C++. GUI is completely out of C++ and has >> been for many years. >> >> -- >> Ajay >> >> >> > > Well, this index doesn't represent the absolute truth, but you can get > an idea about the popularity of programming languages: > > http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html > > Acording to this index (9 years old), VB was never as popular as C++ > (besides other variables, IMHO popularity is thightly coupled to the > number of developers) > My mistake, according to this index, at least in 1985 (?) Vb was more popular than C++ > > Regards > > -- Cholo Lennon Bs.As. ARG
From: Ajay Kalra on 22 Feb 2010 12:12 On Feb 22, 11:40 am, David Lowndes <Dav...(a)example.invalid> wrote: > >That doesnt sound right. I believe VB developers easily surpassed C++ > >10 years ago. I would be surprised if thats not the case with C# > >today. Where I work now (and for last 5+ years), we have gone from > >100% C++ to less than 30% C++. GUI is completely out of C++ and has > >been for many years. > > It surely all depends where these magic figures are coming from :) > Those inital figures were sited at MVP summit by MSFT. Also, I read this in intros in one of the books. Of course these can all be wrong. I also recall it was Joe was stated it in this group about VB outnumbering VC developers. I was actually surprised because I never thought VB would be so popular. -- Ajay
From: Stephen Wolstenholme on 22 Feb 2010 12:40 On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 05:54:34 -0800 (PST), Ajay Kalra <ajaykalra(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >On Feb 21, 11:27�pm, Joseph M. Newcomer <newco...(a)flounder.com> wrote: >> Actually, it is because Microsoft is actively discouraging the newsgroups and wants >> everyone to move to the forums. > >I must have been under a rock; what are these forums? I thought this >newsgroup is one of the "forums". Most of the Microsoft forums are listed at http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/categories I find the change to web forums is a pain in the neck because navigation is tedious. Steve -- Neural Planner Software Ltd www.NPSL1.com Neural network applications, help and support.
From: Tom Serface on 22 Feb 2010 12:50
Hi Joe, It was nice to see you last week (and the others). Probably worth pointing out that it was not necessarily Visual C++ that was the most popular, but C++ in general. The metric is still useful of course and C++ has a lot of momentum. I think there is a place in the world for both. Tom "Joseph M. Newcomer" <newcomer(a)flounder.com> wrote in message news:lm14o5tbcbpp82h0c96ftnpcuhpm1nbl58(a)4ax.com... > Actually, it is because Microsoft is actively discouraging the newsgroups > and wants > everyone to move to the forums. Unfortunately, they are totally clueless > about building a > decent forum reader, and instead rely on third-rate designs that produce > fourth-rate user > interfaces. > > Interestingly enough, we learned at the MVP Summit (and this is *not* NDA > material, > because I specifically asked if we could quote the numbers, which came > from non-Microsoft > industry data) there are more C++ programmers in the world than .NET > programmers. The > numbers are on my laptop, which is not near me, but it something like a > factor-of-2. > joe > On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 19:28:54 -0800 (PST), Ajay Kalra <ajaykalra(a)yahoo.com> > wrote: |