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From: Tony Winston on 15 Oct 2006 16:31 Mike Rosenberg wrote: > > Tim McNamara <timmcn(a)bitstream.net> wrote: > > > OS X is, I think, the default on all G4 Macs and Macs > > introduced after 1/1/03 aren't supposed to be able to boot from OS 9 > > IIRC. > > He never said which G4 he has, but it's clearly one that boots from OS > 9. It's a tower. Tony
From: Mike Rosenberg on 15 Oct 2006 16:54 Tony Winston <unreal(a)address.com> wrote: > > He never said which G4 he has, but it's clearly one that boots from OS > > 9. > > It's a tower. Everything called just a G4 (as opposed to an iMac G4, iBook G4 or PowerBook G4) is a tower, but Apple had models of G4 towers with three different case designs, with several configurations and release dates for each. None of this is important in addressing your problem, though. -- <http://designsbymike.biz/macconsultshop.shtml> Mac-themed T-shirts <http://designsbymike.biz/musings.shtml> Mostly muckraking T-shirts <http://designsbymike.biz/prius.shtml> Prius shirts & bumper stickers <http://cafepress.com/comedancing> Ballroom dance-themed shirts & gift
From: Tony Winston on 15 Oct 2006 16:55 matt neuburg wrote: > > Tony Winston <unreal(a)address.com> wrote: > > > I installed O.S. X.46 onto two external La Cie drives a few months ago. > > > > I was able to start my desktop G4 several times using each drive, but > > now neither drive will start the computer after I choose the respective > > drives to be the start drives in my G4's O.S. 9.22 Startup control panel. > > If there's room, install X onto your internal drive instead. I don't want to do that yet because I'm just starting to learn X, and I would no longer be able to start from 9, which is a scary prospect. Tony
From: Tony Winston on 15 Oct 2006 16:55 "J.J. O'Shea" wrote: > > On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 09:40:29 -0400, Tony Winston wrote > (in article <45323A68.FFC9E8D7(a)address.com>): > > > I installed O.S. X.46 onto two external La Cie drives a few months ago. > > what size, what type, and how old are these drives? LaCie D2 drives are > _much_ more reliable than Porsche Design drives, but they still die. I just > had a 3 or 4 year old 200GB D2 go titsup on me. They're La Cie drives designed by Porsche. > > I was able to start my desktop G4 several times using each drive, but > > now neither drive will start the computer after I choose the respective > > drives to be the start drives in my G4's O.S. 9.22 Startup control panel. > > Can you access the drives from OS 9's Finder? Usually. But sometimes when I restart from the hard disk the icons of the La Cie drives are missing, so then I have to switch the drives off and then on to get the icons to appear again. If so, did you do _anything_ to > the drives from the Finder, or using an OS 9 disk utility, _especially_ any > version of Norton Utilties? No; I haven't used Norton Utilities for years. > > When I try to start from the external drives, the still Apple logo > > appears on a gray background and nothing else happens -- even after five > > minutes of waiting -- forcing me to pull the plug out of the surge > > protector and to shut off the external drive that I was trying to start from. > > Have you tried using verbose startup (command-v) to see what's happening (or > not happening)? Have you started from the OS X install CD and run Disk > Utility? I'll try. Thanks. Tony > > Why is this happening and how can I solve it? > > There could be several reasons. > > 1 disk directory corruption. Disk Utility's 'Repair' facility will sometimes > fix that. You might need heavy artillery: Disk Warrior, Drive Genius, Tech > Tool Pro, something like that. Not Norton anything under any circumstances. > > 2 permissions problems. Disk Utility's 'Permissions' facility will fix that. > > 3 you, or someone else, or some software tool (<cough> Norton Utilities, > especially the Speed Disk app </cough>) moved, altered, or deleted one or > more essential OS X component under OS 9. Under OS X there would have been a > "Don't do that!" alert, but OS 9 doesn't know anything about OS X. A simple > fix of the permissions might fix it... or you might get to do a reinstall. > > 4 the drive might be flakey. Unlikely with two drives at the same time. > > 5 OS 9's Startup Disk might be flakey. Try booting up holding down the option > key. On a G4 you should get a blue screen which will have icons of the > bootable volumes. Click on one of the OS X volumes and see if it boots. Do a > cmd-v to turn on verbose startup so that you can see the boot process... and > see if it stops somewhere. >
From: Mike Rosenberg on 15 Oct 2006 17:11
Tony Winston <unreal(a)address.com> wrote: > I don't want to do that yet because I'm just starting to learn X, and I > would no longer be able to start from 9, which is a scary prospect. It may be scary, but it's not true. As long as you're using a Mac that's capable of booting in OS 9, and you are, you can still do so after installing OS X on the same drive. You would use the Startup Disk control panel or Preference Pane to switch between them, just as you do now. -- <http://designsbymike.biz/macconsultshop.shtml> Mac-themed T-shirts <http://designsbymike.biz/musings.shtml> Mostly muckraking T-shirts <http://designsbymike.biz/prius.shtml> Prius shirts & bumper stickers <http://cafepress.com/comedancing> Ballroom dance-themed shirts & gift |