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From: Dave Balderstone on 16 Oct 2006 14:29 In article <4533CD87.72745136(a)address.com>, Tony Winston <unreal(a)address.com> wrote: > Michelle Steiner wrote: > > > > In article <4532B4AE.BA89E9(a)address.com>, > > Tony Winston <unreal(a)address.com> wrote: > > > > > The Mac documentation even says that one can no longer start from 9 > > > after installing X. (I think it's the documentation that appears when > > > installing X.) > > > > No, the Mac documentation does not say that. > > It does. I just read it yesterday. You have to start in X first and then > choose Classic once X has started the drive. To launch Classic under OS X, that is correct. To boot into OS 9 you choose Startup Disk in the OS X system preferences, select your OS 9 system folder and reboot. If a Mac was ever able to boot into OS 9, it is currently able to boot into OS 9. You are misinterpreting whatever documentation it is that you are reading, plain and simple.
From: Tony Winston on 16 Oct 2006 15:28 Mike Rosenberg wrote: > > Tony Winston <unreal(a)address.com> wrote: > > > > No, the Mac documentation does not say that. > > > > It does. I just read it yesterday. You have to start in X first and then > > choose Classic once X has started the drive. > > You've misinterpreted it. That's how you run OS 9 apps while booted in > OS X. You can still boot up in OS 9 directly should you choose to do > so. > > > > In other words, you got an 9.2.2 update disk rather than the full OS. > > > > Yes. The Megamacs.com Web site simply describes the c.d. as "Mac OS > > 9.2.2 OEM CD" and the c.d. is simply labelled as "Mac OS 9 Install" and > > "Mac OS Version 9.2.2". Nowhere does it say on the Net site -- or even > > on the c.d. -- that it's an update disk. > > No, but the "OEM" part means it was a CD that came bundled with a Mac, > not one sold separately, and the ones that came bundled with Macs only > work on the model they were bundled with. You'd need to buy one listed > as a full _retail_ version. By the way, there was never a full retail > version later than 9.2.1. The Megamacs.com still has the information on it's Net site, that says that implies that the OS will work on my G4 tower (http://www.megamacs.com/v1/index.php?cat=15010&find_only=&action=view&pid=2699845): "Note: This is an OEM Disc that is labelled "iMac" on it, but works with all computers capable of running OS 9.2.2." Tony
From: Steve Hix on 16 Oct 2006 15:59 In article <4533CD87.72745136(a)address.com>, Tony Winston <unreal(a)address.com> wrote: > Michelle Steiner wrote: > > > > In article <4532B4AE.BA89E9(a)address.com>, > > Tony Winston <unreal(a)address.com> wrote: > > > > > The Mac documentation even says that one can no longer start from 9 > > > after installing X. (I think it's the documentation that appears when > > > installing X.) > > > > No, the Mac documentation does not say that. I think I see the source of your confusion. (No the documentation doesn't say that; if your Mac is capable of running OS 9 natively, then you can choose to start up either in OS X or in OS 9.) Then there is Classic, which lets you run OS X and OS 9 applications at the same time, while running OS X. > It does. I just read it yesterday. You have to start in X first and then > choose Classic once X has started the drive. Classic is not Mac OS 9. (They share almost all the same code and resources, but they are not the same.) Assuming that you have a PowerPC Mac that can run OS X (an intel Mac won't run OS 9 applications at all, neither natively nor under Classic), you have three possible states. - Running Mac OS X alone. - Selecting Mac OS 9 as the boot OS in the System Preferences "Startup Disk" pane, then rebooting the machine into OS 9. (Not an option in Macs made during the past couple of years.) Rebooting the system here will bring you back to OS 9; you have use the Startup Disk control panel to select OS X (and reboot) if you want to switch back. - Running Mac OS X and simultaneously run OS 9 and earlier applications. This means that you're running the Classic environment under OS X; think of it as a wrapper around OS 9 that lets it run under OS X. Some applications, mostly old games and applications that mess about directly with the Mac's hardware, won't run this way, but most will.
From: Dave Balderstone on 16 Oct 2006 16:26 In article <4533DDCD.C2D63C35(a)address.com>, Tony Winston <unreal(a)address.com> wrote: > Mike Rosenberg wrote: > > > > Tony Winston <unreal(a)address.com> wrote: > > > > > > No, the Mac documentation does not say that. > > > > > > It does. I just read it yesterday. You have to start in X first and then > > > choose Classic once X has started the drive. > > > > You've misinterpreted it. That's how you run OS 9 apps while booted in > > OS X. You can still boot up in OS 9 directly should you choose to do > > so. > > > > > > In other words, you got an 9.2.2 update disk rather than the full OS. > > > > > > Yes. The Megamacs.com Web site simply describes the c.d. as "Mac OS > > > 9.2.2 OEM CD" and the c.d. is simply labelled as "Mac OS 9 Install" and > > > "Mac OS Version 9.2.2". Nowhere does it say on the Net site -- or even > > > on the c.d. -- that it's an update disk. > > > > No, but the "OEM" part means it was a CD that came bundled with a Mac, > > not one sold separately, and the ones that came bundled with Macs only > > work on the model they were bundled with. You'd need to buy one listed > > as a full _retail_ version. By the way, there was never a full retail > > version later than 9.2.1. > > The Megamacs.com still has the information on it's Net site, that says > that implies that the OS will work on my G4 tower > (http://www.megamacs.com/v1/index.php?cat=15010&find_only=&action=view&pid=269 > 9845): > > "Note: This is an OEM Disc that is labelled "iMac" on it, but works with > all computers capable of running OS 9.2.2." Well, you've already demonstrated that they are either mistaken or lying. Have you contacted them for a refund?
From: Mike Rosenberg on 16 Oct 2006 17:25
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