From: Robert Spanjaard on
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 22:53:37 +0000, Chris H wrote:

>>> Based on the discussion so far, I feel that something like GIMP may
>>> not be good for me, based on my needs and the lack of support. But I
>>> thank everyone who recommended it anyway. I don't mind spending a few
>>> dollars, although Photoshop CS3 or 4 IS a bit much right now.
>>>
>>> Hope this clarifies a bit.
>>
>>Certainly.
>>
>>In which way do you find support for GIMP lacking?
>
> The video tutorials on the web and on cover CD's of most photo magazines
> were a bit light (non-existent),

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gimp+tutorial+video

> the books on GIMP are hard to find on amazon (or in any book shop),

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=gimp&x=0&y=0

> If I ask in any photo forum no one has
> ever heard of GIMP and refer me to Pulp Fiction..... :-)

Must be a great forum.



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From: Chris H on
In message <hm1ccg$2g0$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>, John McWilliams
<jpmcw(a)comcast.net> writes
>Chris H wrote:
>> In message <hm15j9$lku$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Paul Furman <paul-
>> @-edgehill.net> writes
>
>>> Fine art prints & geeky tinkering is better done in photoshop
>>> (elements is fine).
>> Agreed. You can't do it in Lightroom
>
>What can't you do in Lightroom for fine art prints?

Editing and adjustment layers. Moving objects etc.

I find I use Light room 90% of the time. It is only when I want to
change objects in the picture I use Photoshop. Usually the healing brush
or removing signs etc

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From: Robert Spanjaard on
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 18:06:13 -0500, nospam wrote:

>> >the fact that he uses iphoto means he uses a mac.
>>
>> Probably :-) It is best to ask... I have stopped taking these things
>> for granted.
>
> iphoto and aperture are mac only so there isn't any other option.

And this is his User-Agent header:

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2

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From: Savageduck on
On 2010-02-23 14:51:07 -0800, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> said:

> In message <b4k8o5h9u83hu4129ra9tlf1kdttuq6g6m(a)4ax.com>, tony cooper
> <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> writes
>> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 15:39:26 -0500, Alan Lichtenstein <arl(a)erols.com>
>>
>> If, by "asset management", you mean a system that allows you to tag or
>> keyword images by subject, then Elements has that system in the
>> "Organizer" module. Lightroom has a much better system for this, but
>> you really don't need this unless you are working with a library of
>> over a thousand or more images. With only a few hundred photos, you
>> can "asset manage" with a file folder system.
>
> Trouble is with digital it is amazing how fast you gain pictures... I
> outgrew iPhoto in months.

iPhoto is problematic in many ways. First as an editor it is
rudimentary at best, Second the filing system is bizarre and awkward to
say the least. That is the main reason Apple had to develop Aperture as
an pseudo "Pro" app, there was no way they could sell iPhoto as
complete package against Elements or CS4.

>
>> I've tried Gimp, just to see what it does, but I had the advantage of
>> being an experienced Photoshop user and could figure things out from
>> that knowledge. I would never recommend a newbie start with Gimp.
>
> Also my experience.

Agreed.


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From: Robert Spanjaard on
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 22:55:09 +0000, Chris H wrote:

>>Whatever. After your posts of the last couple of hours, I certainly
>>won't point to you for facts.
>
> No, he is right.... you point me to the GIMP books on Amazon, the
> tutorial videos etc.

I already have. I never expected you to be smart enough to find
them yourself.

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