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From: Rod Pemberton on 6 Oct 2007 10:33 <rhyde(a)cs.ucr.edu> wrote in message news:1191603388.936214.65240(a)57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com... > On Oct 5, 1:45 am, "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_h...(a)nowhere.cmm> wrote: > > > > Unfortunately, Herbert's great stuff is lost on the world because he doesn't > > embrace x86 syntax. > > Exactly what is "x86 syntax"? > Specifically, it's the syntax that Intel defined. Loosely, it's something that looks reasonably close to what Intel publishes, uses Intel's names for instructions, uses Intel's names for registers, etc. > > So is Randall's because of his failure to embrace the C > > syntax fully. > > And if I did, you'd simply be complaining that it's lost on the world > because I don't embrace x86 syntax. > Pick one. Not two. > > MASM's syntax, of course, is being rapidly expired by NASM's. > > Why don't you provide proof of this? > 1) HLA which, according to recent posts, uses FASM whose syntax is derived from NASM. 2) Linux, the second most prominent OS, which doesn't run MASM, and where many prefer NASM to GAS. 3) alt.os.development and most OS development sites like osdever.net and osdev.org where people are developing OSes. NASM is the predominant assembler choice. 4) LCC, which now has at least a half dozen ports, most of which use NASM as a backend. (LCC, LCC-Win32, LCC-Linux32, Pelles C, RadiOS LCC, "LCC-Q3VM" for Quake3) The other versions of LCC can be found by search. LCC-Linux32 is here (from a post yesterday by Jacob Navia) http://www.q-software-solutions.de/products/lcc-linux32/index.shtml That's quite a bit of proof, but I suspect that no matter how much I provide, that it's somehow insufficient for you to adjust your current paradigms... Rod Pemberton
From: Betov on 6 Oct 2007 10:40 //\\\\o//\\\\annabee <w(a)w.w.w> �crivait news:op.tzr2bes1in6out(a)darth-fpsr: > I got off at "It may be used for any purpose, " > > Evidently it cannot be used for _any_ purpose. > > And now I understand what you ment earlier. :)) Well, i should not laugh, because the whole story is finaly rather sad: In fact, this is a quite good job. Very difficult to use, when you do not know what it is about, but i just succeeded to output something comparable to our .gud files (in the form of a .inc file for MASM, for the "iBaseAudio" thingies. Really sad of wasting such a work because of demential political views. Betov. < http://rosasm.org >
From: //o//annabee on 6 Oct 2007 10:46 On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 16:40:32 +0200, Betov <betov(a)free.fr> wrote: > //\\\\o//\\\\annabee <w(a)w.w.w> �crivait > news:op.tzr2bes1in6out(a)darth-fpsr: > >> I got off at "It may be used for any purpose, " >> >> Evidently it cannot be used for _any_ purpose. >> >> And now I understand what you ment earlier. > > :)) > > Well, i should not laugh, because the whole story is finaly > rather sad: > > In fact, this is a quite good job. Very difficult to use, when > you do not know what it is about, but i just succeeded to output > something comparable to our .gud files (in the form of a .inc > file for MASM, for the "iBaseAudio" thingies. > > Really sad of wasting such a work because of demential political > views. Yes, well. The source can be read... And it can be recreated with RosAsm wihtout ever modifying the source :D :D And then I can cut and paste... :D So.... as free as it can become beeing written in MASM > > Betov. > > < http://rosasm.org > > >
From: Betov on 6 Oct 2007 10:54 "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have(a)nohavenot.cmm> �crivait news:fe866a$1ii$1 @aioe.org: > That's quite a bit of proof, but I suspect that no matter how much I > provide, that it's somehow insufficient for you to adjust your current > paradigms... Of course. Why do you think this individual choosed to support MASM over NASM, in his earlier versions? The only reason why he did not finaly choose MASM (even though he goes on supporting it actively), was that he was afraid of its illegal redistribution. Would have MicroSoft given its permission, keep sure that MASM would be inside his package, dispiting all of the defects and limitations of this toy. When asked about "Why not NASM?", he was used to provide the so funny answer: "NASM Macros Engine is not powerful enough for supporting HLA". [Notice the *two* great jokes in one]. Betov. < http://rosasm.org >
From: Betov on 6 Oct 2007 11:02
//\\\\o//\\\\annabee <w(a)w.w.w> �crivait news:op.tzr5x6zhin6out(a)darth-fpsr: > Yes, well. The source can be read... > > And it can be recreated with RosAsm wihtout ever modifying the source > :D :D > > And then I can cut and paste... :D > > So.... as free as it can become beeing written in MASM I hope you are joking, because I wouldn't even reuse PD. :)) Betov. < http://rosasm.org > |