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From: David Kaye on 8 May 2010 04:51 Gabriele Neukam <Gabriele.Spamfighter.Neukam(a)t-online.de> wrote: >The latter seems to be a hardware issue. I am afraid that the laptop had >a short circuit somewhere, that first caused this strange behaviour >(keyboard sent irregular commands), until finally a fuse blew up. I'm inclined to think that the malware was running the CPU at 100% for a long time and the computer had blocked air holes (due to dust, pet hair, etc) and overheated. If it won't come on at all then it's likely that the overheating fried the mother board. As a preventive measure, I recommend cleaning the dust out of computers -- in a laptop this means blowing several times into the exit holes to dislodge the dust -- usually it comes out in big puffs of dust. In a desktop I recommend vacuuming out the air holes both on the back of the unit and also internally around the CPU and the power supply fan. >If there is no means of powering the laptop up again, the only way to >save her data will be to remove the hard disk, and try if it can be read >from an adapter. Yes.
From: David H. Lipman on 8 May 2010 07:38 From: "David Kaye" <sfdavidkaye2(a)yahoo.com> | Gabriele Neukam <Gabriele.Spamfighter.Neukam(a)t-online.de> wrote: >>The latter seems to be a hardware issue. I am afraid that the laptop had >>a short circuit somewhere, that first caused this strange behaviour >>(keyboard sent irregular commands), until finally a fuse blew up. | I'm inclined to think that the malware was running the CPU at 100% for a long | time and the computer had blocked air holes (due to dust, pet hair, etc) and | overheated. If it won't come on at all then it's likely that the overheating | fried the mother board. | As a preventive measure, I recommend cleaning the dust out of computers | -- in a laptop this means blowing several times into the exit holes to | dislodge the dust -- usually it comes out in big puffs of dust. | In a desktop I recommend vacuuming out the air holes both on the back of the | unit and also internally around the CPU and the power supply fan. >>If there is no means of powering the laptop up again, the only way to >>save her data will be to remove the hard disk, and try if it can be read >>from an adapter. | Yes. If it was a notebook that had dust choked cooling fins then it would possibly indicate a thermal shutdown and be able to reboot once cool and cycle through that. Compressed air is good for cleaning the cooling fins. When cleaning a desktop chassis a vacuum cleaner wand and soft-bristle paint brush is best. Use the paint brush to gently dislodge the dust and vacuum the dislodged material using the vacuum wand. -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
From: Rube Bumpkin on 8 May 2010 16:24 On 5/8/2010 4:51 AM, David Kaye wrote: > Gabriele Neukam<Gabriele.Spamfighter.Neukam(a)t-online.de> wrote: <SNIP> > As a preventive measure, I recommend cleaning the dust out of computers > -- in a laptop this means blowing several times into the exit holes to > dislodge the dust -- usually it comes out in big puffs of dust. > <SNIP> I just replaced a keyboard on a new laptop this weekend (a bad "E") and have done it in the past on various brands. I'd recommend removing the keyboard and blowing out the insides. It's usually 2 screws and maybe a couple of clips. You flip it out of the way, without disconnecting it, and you can see the entire air path. RB
From: Dustin Cook on 8 May 2010 23:28 sfdavidkaye2(a)yahoo.com (David Kaye) wrote in news:hs38ln$lmk$1(a)news.eternal-september.org: > Gabriele Neukam <Gabriele.Spamfighter.Neukam(a)t-online.de> wrote: > >>The latter seems to be a hardware issue. I am afraid that the laptop >>had a short circuit somewhere, that first caused this strange >>behaviour (keyboard sent irregular commands), until finally a fuse >>blew up. > > I'm inclined to think that the malware was running the CPU at 100% for > a long time and the computer had blocked air holes (due to dust, pet > hair, etc) and overheated. If it won't come on at all then it's > likely that the overheating fried the mother board. > As a preventive measure, I recommend cleaning the dust out of > computers -- in a laptop this means blowing several times into the > exit holes to dislodge the dust -- usually it comes out in big puffs > of dust. > > In a desktop I recommend vacuuming out the air holes both on the back > of the unit and also internally around the CPU and the power supply > fan. > > >>If there is no means of powering the laptop up again, the only way to >>save her data will be to remove the hard disk, and try if it can be >>read from an adapter. > > Yes. > May have just blown the cpu instead of the mainboard.. not exactly sure about the fuse... (I haven't seen an actual fuse in the laptop itself in a very long time).. but otherwise, good advice! -- "Hrrngh! Someday I'm going to hurl this...er...roll this...hrrngh.. nudge this boulder right down a cliff." - Goblin Warrior
From: David Kaye on 9 May 2010 03:53
"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote: >If it was a notebook that had dust choked cooling fins then it would possibly > indicate a >thermal shutdown and be able to reboot once cool and cycle through that. > Compressed air >is good for cleaning the cooling fins. I recommend against using compressed air for a laptop because I feel the pressure is too great and may bend the delicate fins on the fan. This is why I recommend gently blowing into the air output holes, since it's far easier to control one's breath than it is a cannister full of compressed air. A few puffs can dislodge a lot of gunk. >When cleaning a desktop chassis a vacuum cleaner wand and soft-bristle paint > brush is >best. Use the paint brush to gently dislodge the dust and vacuum the dislodged > material >using the vacuum wand. I bought a cheap feather duster. I use it with just a touch of spray furniture polish (just a light spray, to just give it enough oil to pick up the dust. With this I can gently pull the plumes along various circuit boards, around components, under the HD bay, etc., to pick up a *lot* of gunk from inside the chassis. Then a rigorous shake of the duster will dislodge the dust. |