Where is balance? -- Re: Academic priorities
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From: Terje Mathisen on 4 May 2005 16:37 Patrick Scheible wrote: > Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen(a)hda.hydro.com> writes: >>High-proof Jamaica Rum, plus a regular (linen or cotton) napkin plus a >>match == Molotov cocktail, right? > > What proof alcohol do you need? We had so much trouble getting the 80 proof > brandy to flame for plum pudding at christmas that we had to switch to > stronger, and preheat it. And that's just to burn, not to explode. About 60% (120 proof) should do, this is why I specified Rum which is available in higher proofs than most other forms of alcohol. > > >>Besides, who needs a sharp knife when a broken whiskey bottle is handy? > > Those itty-bitty bottles they give you on planes? Wouldn't do much. I'm not talking about those, even though they are much more dangerous than the 8-12 mm 'blade' at the end of a nail cutter. All international flights I've been on recently would try to sell me Tax-free bottles while on board, and you could of course bring at least two liters of stuff you bought before boarding. Terje -- - <Terje.Mathisen(a)hda.hydro.com> "almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching"
From: rpl on 4 May 2005 16:42 Herman Rubin wrote: > In article <IIydneqywLiqMerfRVn-iA(a)rogers.com>, > rpl <plinnane3REMOVE(a)NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote: > >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >>>In article <LO6dnb-vyozPmerfRVn-tA(a)rogers.com>, >>> rpl <plinnane3REMOVE(a)NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote: > > >>>>Marco S Hyman wrote: > > >>>>>rpl <plinnane3REMOVE(a)NOSPAMyahoo.com> writes: > > > <snip> > >>>>>Or do you >>>>>think there is a valid lesson in getting kicked out of school because >>>>>you carry a pocket knife? > > >>>>nope; don't see any reason why a student should carry one on school >>>>grounds, either. > > > When I was in elementary school in Chicago, it was common > for boys to carry pocket knives. > me2, and even though I don't recall a large number of people spending their free time whittling, it definitely passed under admin radar. Rick
From: rpl on 4 May 2005 16:50 Morten Reistad wrote: > In article <3dra94F6t8qodU1(a)individual.net>, > Jan Vorbrýggen <jvorbrueggen-not(a)mediasec.de> wrote: > >>>>>>>It wasn't that long ago when it was not uncommon for children from about >>>>>>>10 years old and up to bring weapons to school, rifles shotguns that were >>>>>>>stored in the school gun rack or cloak room during school hours. The >>>>>> >>>>>>I'm really glad I never have lived and am never going to live anywhere >>>>>>where such could happen, never mind be considered the norm. >>> >>>Why? Because the kids were trusted? Because firearms were regarded >>>as being like any other implement? >> >>Two reasons: one, hereabouts, one doesn't regard a firearm as a normal >>implement - but that is a different discussion. Second, I have a ten-year >>old, and I definitely wouldn't trust him with a firearm of any kind with- >>out close supervision. But then, we don't trust sixteen-year-olds with >>driving a car, either. > > > Around here, 12 is the legal age to handle a firearm. When I was 12 and > a few weeks I was dragged along to the rifle range to get some respect for > guns. After a few rounds with a Krag-Jorgensen I had plenty respect all right. > (this gun seemed like a small cannon to a 12-year old, and I guess that was > on purpose.). > > Later experiences with AG3, MP5 etc. struck me as being downright easy in > comparison. I don't imagine there'd be any comparison with the MP5, but like all (semi)-autos, the AG3 does bleed off a bit to run the extractor (I'm assuming the KJ is a bolt-action). rpl > > -- mrr
From: Larry Elmore on 4 May 2005 23:51 Terje Mathisen wrote: > Casper H.S. Dik wrote: > >>=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan_Vorbr=FCggen?= <jvorbrueggen-not(a)mediasec.de> writes: >> >> >> >>>>A butter knife can take an eye out. >> >> >>>So can my fingers. How do I leave those at the reception desk? >> >> >>And spoons and forks can too. >> >>It's that I don't have much of an inclination to mess >>with airport security, but whenever I fly KLM I get >>a metal knife/fork/spoon. I wonder what would happen if >>I take one out of the plane and then try to take it back >>on the return trip. > > > Stainless steel cutlery on all international flights to/from the US is > of course nice, however it really doesn't matter at all when you > consider that all airlines gladly sell you firebomb-making gear while > onboard: > > High-proof Jamaica Rum, plus a regular (linen or cotton) napkin plus a > match == Molotov cocktail, right? > > Besides, who needs a sharp knife when a broken whiskey bottle is handy? > > Terje > > PS. Here in Norway they've also made it illegal to carry knifes around > downtown, unless they are part of some form of uniform. > > I.e. when wearing my traditional Telemark costume, the richly decorated > knife is OK, and all my scouts can wear their knives as long as they > also wear at least the scout's scarf. :-) > > The strange part here is that traditionally, Norway has been so > dependent upon hunting & fishing (only 2.6% of the country is even > potentially arable, according to the CIA Fact book), that we never even > considered stuff like this to be weapons: > > Shotguns were unregistered and available to anyone over 16, while all > Home Guard members, plus all reserve officers in all service branches > would keep their full basic kit, including their AG3 (Heckler & Koch ?) > full auto rifle at home. It made Norway to most heavily armed country in > the world, alongside Switzerland. > > About 10-15 years ago several military storage bunkers were broken into > and rifles, machine guns and hand grenades etc stolen from them. The > knee-jerk reaction was to force almost all Home Guard/Reserve Officer > personell to hand over their rifles & ammo, even though theft of > military weapons from private residences had never been a problem. :-( That was just about too predictable. :-( Go after the "easy" solution for a problem that doesn't exist and claim they're addressing the real problem. --Larry
From: Kelly Hall on 5 May 2005 01:42
Larry Elmore wrote: > Go after the "easy" solution for a problem that doesn't exist and claim > they're addressing the real problem. It's all part of "security theater". Kelly |