From: Bill Graham on

"Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote in message
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I would settle for 2,000 nationwide. Sadly, there are many who take oratory
> over substance
>
> --
> Peter

Voting for Obama over Palin is the epitome of, "Taking oratory over
substance".

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"Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> We agree on something. Remember Bill votes his for pocketbook, not
>> humanity.
>
> Yes.....I am very uncomfortable when politicians have their hands in my
> pockets........Just because Robin Hood gave money to the poor, that
> doesn't prevent me from calling him a thief.

Are you saying you receive no benefit from being a member of our society?
Please clarify.


--
Peter

From: Bill Graham on

"Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote in message
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> "Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
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>> "Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote in message
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>
>>>
>>> We agree on something. Remember Bill votes his for pocketbook, not
>>> humanity.
>>
>> Yes.....I am very uncomfortable when politicians have their hands in my
>> pockets........Just because Robin Hood gave money to the poor, that
>> doesn't prevent me from calling him a thief.
>
> Are you saying you receive no benefit from being a member of our society?
> Please clarify.
>
>
> --
> Peter

Will do. At 10% government, society is great, At 20% government it's still
not too bad, but a bit less than "great" and at 50% government it is
oppressive, way to socialistic, and a long, long way from being great. - We
passed the 50% mark some time ago, and with Obama/Pelosi, we are fast
heading to 60% and above.

From: Peter on
"Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote in message
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>> "Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
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>>> "Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote in message
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>>
>>>>
>>>> We agree on something. Remember Bill votes his for pocketbook, not
>>>> humanity.
>>>
>>> Yes.....I am very uncomfortable when politicians have their hands in my
>>> pockets........Just because Robin Hood gave money to the poor, that
>>> doesn't prevent me from calling him a thief.
>>
>> Are you saying you receive no benefit from being a member of our society?
>> Please clarify.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Peter
>
> Will do. At 10% government, society is great, At 20% government it's still
> not too bad, but a bit less than "great" and at 50% government it is
> oppressive, way to socialistic, and a long, long way from being great. -
> We passed the 50% mark some time ago, and with Obama/Pelosi, we are fast
> heading to 60% and above.


So you want the benefits without paying for them. I get it, you should only
pay for the direct benefits you think you need. Not to help society as a
whole.

Just start with a few common costs. Since you know how much to spend, why
don't you fill in the blanks.

Military: = ?
Education = ?
Domestic security protection = ?
Road maintenance = ?
Court system = ?
Helping our genuinely indigent to survive = ?

Come on Billy boy, you have investments. What is the cost of the government
helping to maintain the integrity of your money.

If you expect the benefits of living in our society without paying for them,
you are a worse thief than Robin Hood.

--
Peter

From: J�rgen Exner on
C J Campbell <christophercampbellremovethis(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>On 2010-02-11 23:39:37 -0800, "Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net> said:

[replying to C J's posting because Bill has been in my killfile for a
long time. And obviously for very good reasons, see below]

>> "J�rgen Exner" <jurgenex(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> C J Campbell <christophercampbellremovethis(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> And wouldn't Bill Gates love a sales tax......

He happens to be living in Bellevue, WA, USA, which happens to have
about 8% sales tax (plus probably a few percent slapped on by King
County and the city of Bellevue).

>>He wouldn't spend any
>> more than he does now, but his investments would make billions of
>> dollars every year, and it would all be tax free., Talk about a
>> regressive tax system.....

???
What does income tax have to do with the difference between sales tax
and VAT? Are you tossing red herrings around again?

jue