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From: Intransition on 7 Apr 2010 10:42 On Apr 7, 7:00 am, thunk <gmkol...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 6, 7:35 pm, Intransition <transf...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > thunk, > > > I want to ask you a few questions. Humor me for a moment. > > > 1) On what planet in our solar system can you best breathe? > > > 2) What is the following word: > > ____ ___ ____ ___ _ > > / ___/ _ \| __ ) / _ \| | > > | | | | | | _ \| | | | | > > | |__| |_| | |_) | |_| | |___ > > \____\___/|____/ \___/|_____| > > > 3) What letter is next in this sequence? > > > J F M A M J J A S O N __ > > fortran > HP calculators - wow!?! well it is portable > assembler > benton harbor basic (H8) self built > MS Basic > General .... Business basic > Pascal > Pascal! > (forth) > c > c++ ????????!!!!! yeee > Smalltalk :) :) > Java (it worked) > ......... > ........... > ............... > ruby > Ruby?! > > RUBY!!!!!!!!! :) :) :) :) How is that an answer in any way shape or form? > sometimes there are last words, and this is mine to you sir: > > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arschloch Oh, such a subtle insult. I have my doubts you are even a real person. Or perhaps you are a human-assisted bot (Ru'id?). In either case I wanted to try to verify before making a decision --to see if there was any hope of reasoning with you. I do not control the main mailing list but I do control the google group archive of this list --I have never banned anyone before, but I think I am going to do so in your case b/c you are not actually having conversations. You are just filling space with nonsense.
From: thunk on 7 Apr 2010 11:05 > How is that an answer in any way shape or form? It was intended as the LastLink as the lastWord is rather dull... The word has so many meanings... it may not mean what you may assume it only means. There is something in there about making oneself bigger by trying to make others smaller. What does COBOL imply my dear fellow? It implies that I am dated to most anybody here, whether you are aware of that or not. NOBODY else has said anything like that - it has been FUN and fun it should have remained. The COBOL thing, imho, was a kick below the belt of a man that sees himself as trying to share something, whether it is shareable or not. Last night JOSH was great - on line - then off - he TOOK time to explain that while all sorts of AMAZING things happen on Heroku - it is only with some tricks that it is possible to "save a file". The whole "AI" thing was NOT intended. I see these things as "scripts" - that is how I name them internally. But "scripts" can be a 3 line "program" or a 100,000 line program in the Ruby world - with all the modules. I tried the term "BOID" because it was the best FIT I could find. I really think a lot of you guys catch a posting here, catch a posting there and get pieces of it all, well I have really wanted to determine if what I HAVE WORKING - has a fit into where things are for you folks that know this stuff and live it. My background includes authoring/designing software for my company and the two largest precision tool companies of that time. We did a lot of useful things and everything I am saying can be backed up. You guys have not invented software - and I still am not convinced that what I have working - which is NOT AI - but still has implications could not be useful. I TRIED to make these points but in retrospect, I suspect you guys have a lot of "real cranks" to deal with in the snake-oil division of AI Corp. I can understand that BUT what these humble Ru'ids can do NOW is very interesting. also over many years, I have noticed that when I prove something to myself without doubt - but the 100's of hours of project work still wait, I go through a period of self-examination / doubt / rethinking where I like to "chat" and think about the next more mundane steps and where it all fits. to answer your question as directly as I can think - that was a sequence of languages from top (earliest) to bottom (latest) you did a sequence with me i did a sequence back seemed fair. but I still do not know if I can save a file as text and load it as a executable class and do on Heroku what I can do on my box here. and as Mr Ryan Davis has pointed out clearly enough for me, the spit ball stuff is noise and there is a ratio to be watched. I'd like to CONTRIBUTE rather than stupid stuff like this. (but hey, who butts head with a guy named thunk anyway??) :)
From: Intransition on 7 Apr 2010 12:13 On Apr 7, 11:10 am, thunk <gmkol...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > How is that an answer in any way shape or form? > > It was intended as the LastLink as the lastWord is rather dull... > > The word has so many meanings... it may not mean what you may assume > it only means. There is something in there about making oneself > bigger by trying to make others smaller. > > What does COBOL imply my dear fellow? It wasn't meant to imply anything. It was a figlet generated word picked practically at random to see if you were a real person. (I am going to assume that you are, though you have still not answered two of three questions.) You just ramble on and on. You need to focus and stick to a topic and reply succinctly and directly. Believe me, I of all people am sympathetic to non-conformity. But there is big difference between being edgy and different, and being out right "spambastic". I feel bad for you, but if you can't reign it in and stop posting non-sense ramblings, I will be forced to black list you.
From: andrew mcelroy on 7 Apr 2010 12:22 [Note: parts of this message were removed to make it a legal post.] On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Intransition <transfire(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Apr 7, 11:10 am, thunk <gmkol...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > How is that an answer in any way shape or form? > > > > It was intended as the LastLink as the lastWord is rather dull... > > > > The word has so many meanings... it may not mean what you may assume > > it only means. There is something in there about making oneself > > bigger by trying to make others smaller. > > > > What does COBOL imply my dear fellow? > > It wasn't meant to imply anything. It was a figlet generated word > picked practically at random to see if you were a real person. (I am > going to assume that you are, though you have still not answered two > of three questions.) > > I can assure you that he is a real person. I have talked to him on the phone several times. If he isn't then it was the greatest text to speech engine I have ever heard. The author of such a system is surely due a Turing Award. You just ramble on and on. You need to focus and stick to a topic and > reply succinctly and directly. Believe me, I of all people am > sympathetic to non-conformity. But there is big difference between > being edgy and different, and being out right "spambastic". I feel bad > for you, but if you can't reign it in and stop posting non-sense > ramblings, I will be forced to black list you. > It is probably genuinely a psychological problem. He is exactly the same way on the phone.
From: thunk on 7 Apr 2010 13:11
I have communicated regularly in art related forums where the group leader never uses capitals or punctuation. With some younger folks I feel "verklemmt" / inhibited. I have lived in/with several languages including the forgotten dialect of several people I loved most dearly. It is clear that there are certain "norms" and I did not take the time to research 100's of postings. My intent usually to get a posting done without spending 30 minutes wondering where the darned commas should go (I sure do miss having people to make sure that was right - but most of my adult life I have had somebody to do this for me. There is a REAL question, it was in the title, strange and out of the ordinary that it may have seemed to you rather sober people: It was something like "It's a Bird, It's a Plane, No ummmm, its a Boid" or something like this. I gave that some thought and figured it would grab a little more attention (good), and 5-10 postings I could go back to work knowing that there is something like this being done, probably not in Ruby, and that my months of intensive work would not be of interest. Most strangely, that did not happen here. Knowing what I know now I can understand that you have a tight group of "solvers" that know each other, and a stream of "newbies" or regular folks and you come from your perspectives and try and help, end up taking some shots at each other on this that or the other - the "satz" thing reveals that. BUT, please think, whatever I am SEEING is not that simple, BUT I am seeing it and being told I am "batShit Crazy" rather causes me to want to get the job done even faster - and so it spun out of control - such as this is - it is text and nobody is getting hurt. And there are real thoughts in there. I'd REALLY like to start a new thread. I like the new name Ru'id as a tribute to Ru_by and a hint of "OIDE" - and I am not about to go around on Boid again - that is taken - that argument I give you guys. I'm really not sure what to call it, but I'd like your permission to start it fresh and I will promise to re-read my postings at least once. And I would like permission to use links to my wiki pages which I am working to make more sober also. (I do NOT drink, touch drugs, or smoke... but I am used to communicating with people on a casual basis. Many of these people make me look "proper".) The focus is not solid onto what it would take to build a MINIMUM RU'ID DEMO - free for everybody if possible - for testing. The idea would be to allow Ruby programmers to "Clone" and build up the "system" - and talk about what it does, how, and such as that. It is a fascinating idea to me, but not my major immediate goal. I don't know how much help it would take, because many of the issues are unresolved - but seem like they should be resolvable somehow. I have a link but I won't post it. Give me permission and I will. The documentation is getting better - There is example output and I will send you the output for 1000 patients or whatever if you want to test this. It is real and so am I. George |