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From: timite_h on 31 May 2006 03:45 I think that there is a misunderstanding. I was talking about STUDENTS graphing calculators not about professionnal calculators. Because i am not too sure professionnal really need calculators any more (except perharps surveyors). However i am still very interested about calculator for students as one of my little brother and several of my cousins are high school students. Anyway i don't believe that in this actual form(running a HP49G emulator as the only form of software),the HP49G+ could ever be significantly improved. I don't believe for example that it can't have a significantly higher resolution screen such as a QVGA otherwise HP would have certainly already used a better screen for the current model. Moreover for students this tool would certainly be completely outdated in comparaison of solutions such as the TI-Nspire and ClassPad(which is rumored to have soon a major O.S upgrade) which are ironically inspired from the HP XPander. Despite what several people seems to believe here,touch sensitive screen is a major evolution for calculators as it offers very interesting and exciting new abilities and it significantly increase the interactivity with the calculator. One should test the Casio ClassPad to understand what i am saying. For professionnals i am sure that there should be better alternative such as Keyboard enhanced PDA or laptops with math packages. For example QONOS would have been a significantly better option for professionnals than the HP49G+ or apparently the HP50G. And to finish HP49G+ has given a very,very bad image(it has for example disgusted me of HP calculators for quite a long time) to HP calculators and unless HP get rid of its actual calculator line and come with something completely new with excellent quality out of box they have close to no chance to get a significant share of the calculators market. Gilles a écrit : > >"timite_h" <timiteh(a)gmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news: > >1148976996.323335.322380(a)j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > >I think that producing a HP50G(which is what the HP49G+ should have > >been) is the last thing to do especially > >(...) > > I really dont agree with you : > > >*A high resolution touch sensitive screen > > Yes for a better resolution and better display, and perhaps colors ;) > Nothing to do for me with a sensitive screen. It's not very imporant for me. > > >*A more graphic interface to fully take advantage of touch sensitive > >screen > > I don't want this... > > >*A decent keyboard as the touch screen must be an improvement to > >calculators and shouldn't remove one good feature of calculators:a > >great keyboard for computations > > Yes. The keyboard of my 49g+ is decent but could be more decent. > > In my opinion, i want a 49g+'like with : > - better screen, > - better resolution (at least the double). 320x200 would be perfect. I dont > want more ;) > - better keyboard, > - a better autonomy (I want more than one year ;) , > - a better hardware (the colors of my 49g+ disappear !) > - a smaller machine (I want to put it in my pocket, something like a 42s) > and it must be a pleasure to have it in hands > > I don't want a PDA'like > > Gilles
From: Meh. on 31 May 2006 06:18 timite_h wrote: > Because i am not too sure professionnal really need calculators any > more (except perharps surveyors). Hiho, I think you'll find that a lot of professional people (engineers and scientists) still use calculators a lot at their desk/bench since they are very very good for on-the-fly calculation work and testing. Well, I do at least! Just my $0.02. Tra Meh.
From: timite_h on 31 May 2006 14:12 Ok personnaly as a computer science engineer i don't need one and most of other engineers i know don't use calculators at all. Calculators are some kind of hobby and my interest. I am very disapointed by current offering besides perhaps Casio ClassPad which needs however significant software improvements as well as a decent keyboard. So as a professional who use calculators what kind of evolution would you expect from advanced calculator ? Meh. a écrit : > timite_h wrote: > > Because i am not too sure professionnal really need calculators any > > more (except perharps surveyors). > > Hiho, > > I think you'll find that a lot of professional people (engineers and > scientists) still use calculators a lot at their desk/bench since they > are very very good for on-the-fly calculation work and testing. > Well, I do at least! > > Just my $0.02. > > Tra > > Meh.
From: ME on 31 May 2006 23:58 I use a calculator at work almost every day. I often use the equation writer app on the fly. Color graphics would be very nice at least four colors say black ,red ,green and blue for easier visualization. I don't see how you can think through ideas or understand complex things on the go without a calculator. If you sit at a desk for 10 hours a day then you can use the variety of available packages but there is something very handy a about a calc program to give you the answer with just a few pushes of a button (when they aren't broken). With computers like the Sony ux180P if hp does not changed they will be buried by this technology. "timite_h" <timiteh(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:1149099149.438655.226960(a)i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... Ok personnaly as a computer science engineer i don't need one and most of other engineers i know don't use calculators at all. Calculators are some kind of hobby and my interest. I am very disapointed by current offering besides perhaps Casio ClassPad which needs however significant software improvements as well as a decent keyboard. So as a professional who use calculators what kind of evolution would you expect from advanced calculator ? Meh. a ?crit : > timite_h wrote: > > Because i am not too sure professionnal really need calculators any > > more (except perharps surveyors). > > Hiho, > > I think you'll find that a lot of professional people (engineers and > scientists) still use calculators a lot at their desk/bench since they > are very very good for on-the-fly calculation work and testing. > Well, I do at least! > > Just my $0.02. > > Tra > > Meh.
From: John H Meyers on 1 Jun 2006 01:01
On Wed, 31 May 2006 22:58:42 -0500: > With computers like the Sony ux180P if hp does not change > they will be buried by this technology. Even though 1 Sony UMPC (price) = 15 of 49G+ ? But surely schools (which are already banning cell phones) will ban the even more distracting UMPCs, and will then embrace the 50G (so long as it remains so primitive as to have neither a camera nor text messaging :) "Like a great poet, Nature is capable of producing the most stunning effects with the smallest means" [Henrich Heine (1797-1856)] |