From: Ray Fischer on
mikey4 <lakediver(a)dd..net> wrote:
>"Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message
>> Neil Harrington <secret(a)illumnati.net> wrote:
>>>"David Ruether" <d_ruether(a)thotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> "Neil Harrington" <secret(a)illumnati.net> wrote in message

>>>>> Much the same with the latest ACORN scandal, which stunk so badly that
>>>>> even Democrats in Congress finally voted to stop funding ACORN. But you
>>>>> never even heard about it from ABC, CBS or NBC, did you?
>>>> [Nonsense deleted...]
>>>>
>>>> What was shown on tape from a *few* ACORN locations (but where
>>>> were the reportings of the ones that threw out these imposters?)
>>>
>>>What makes you think ANY of the ACORN offices did or would do any
>>>differently from the ones on tape? ACORN is rotten and corrupt to the
>>>core.
>>
>> If that's true then it must also be true of the Republican party given
>> the number of Republicans who have been shown to be lying,
>> philandering hypocrites.
>
>Just like the lefttards

Never trust a man who gives online retorts with *no* substance.
mikey in <h8rvun$1hb$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>
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Ray Fischer
rfischer(a)sonic.net

From: Ray Fischer on
Neil Harrington <not(a)home.today> wrote:
>"Walter Banks" <walter(a)bytecraft.com> wrote in message

>> All the Canadian patients who come to the US for necessary
>> health care have the costs paid for by the Canadian health
>> care system. That includes elective procedures.
>
>No, I don't think so.

You don't think.

>> The spending in Canada is about half per person of the
>> US health costs.
>
>Because it's rationed.

That's a bald-faced lie.

It's the US that rations health care. People die as a result.

--
Ray Fischer
rfischer(a)sonic.net

From: Rol_Lei Nut on
tony cooper wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 18:36:03 +0200, Rol_Lei Nut
> <Speleo_Karstlenscap(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Bill Graham wrote:
>>> If I were a professional house breaker, I would go to some country
>>> where no one is allowed to own a gun. That's just good common sense.
>> Unfortunately for you, those are the countries where neighbours are
>> friendly and look out for each other....
>
> Countries like, say, Scotland?
>
> "A United Nations report has labelled Scotland the most violent
> country in the developed world, with people three times more likely to
> be assaulted than in America.
>
> England and Wales recorded the second highest number of violent
> assaults while Northern Ireland recorded the fewest." (2005)
>
>
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article568214.ece
>

I've never held the UK up as an example, as in many ways it
follows/emulates the US...
That is unfortunately (Yob culture) why I would have serious
reservations about living there.
But I have similar or worse reservations about living in the U.S. (apart
from a very few places).

In most (the vast majority) of Europe, volent crime rates are a fraction
of the U.S. (and U.K.) ones.

From: Ray Fischer on
Bill Graham <weg9(a)comcast.net> wrote:
><stephe_k(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:h916ml$lne$3(a)news.albasani.net...

>> Well I was pissed watching GWB spending BILLIONS on a war while giving
>> MASSIVE tax breaks to the wealthy. I was pissed watching him do NOTHING
>> other than watching the economy fail. Were you? Some of us didn't just
>> "wake up" because a republican wasn't in the white house. If Obama had
>> been handed a healthy country and done this, I'd be pissed right there
>> with ya, but that isn't what happened.
>>
>> Stephanie
>I still don't understand about these, "massive tax cuts to the wealthy". the
>last time I checked, the more money you make, the greater percentage you
>have to pay, .....that's what the tax tables in the form 1040 tell me.....

That's the sort of ignorant thinking that gets rightards into trouble.

There are many ways the wealthy get to pay lower taxes. Here's one:

Long-term capital gains and dividends aren't taxed as regular income.
It's a flat 15% even before you find any deductions. So, if you own a
ton of stock that pays you $250,000/yr in dividends then you pay no more
than 15% of that as income tax. If you are given $100,000,000 in
stock by the company and you sell it a year later, you pay 15%.

If you earn $150,000 as straight salary then you pay about twice as
much.

--
Ray Fischer
rfischer(a)sonic.net

From: stephe_k on
Bill Graham wrote:
>
> <stephe_k(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:h916ml$lne$3(a)news.albasani.net...
>> mikey4 wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> People are pissed because "they" have finely woke up to the fact that
>>> the "government" is out of control and has been for a very long time.
>>
>> Well I was pissed watching GWB spending BILLIONS on a war while giving
>> MASSIVE tax breaks to the wealthy. I was pissed watching him do
>> NOTHING other than watching the economy fail. Were you? Some of us
>> didn't just "wake up" because a republican wasn't in the white house.
>> If Obama had been handed a healthy country and done this, I'd be
>> pissed right there with ya, but that isn't what happened.
>>
>> Stephanie
> I still don't understand about these, "massive tax cuts to the wealthy".


One example, check out the inheritance tax laws Bush put in place..

> the last time I checked, the more money you make, the greater percentage
> you have to pay, .....that's what the tax tables in the form 1040 tell
> me.....

Talking about OTHER taxes, loopholes opened up for the wealthy and the
owners/CEO etc of big business. People whos income if "off the chart" of
those tables that you refer too. They didn't help anyone whos income
figures are on some tax table.

Stephanie
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