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From: Rol_Lei Nut on 20 Sep 2009 02:41 Interestingly, in all these polical threads, I don't recall a single post from someone living in a country with state-regulated health insurance/care complaining about it. Many, including myself, posted that it works quite well and costs a fraction of the U.S. system. But no real user posted anything against. Hmmmm.... Maybe because all the posters living in those countries were afraid of being arrested by the "socialist thought police" if they complained? ;-) Goes to show that the extreme-right cultists are too blind to even look at a best practices comparison.
From: D. Peter Maus on 20 Sep 2009 02:49 On 9/20/09 01:41 , Rol_Lei Nut wrote: > Interestingly, in all these polical threads, I don't recall a single > post from someone living in a country with state-regulated health > insurance/care complaining about it. > Many, including myself, posted that it works quite well and costs a > fraction of the U.S. system. > But no real user posted anything against. > > Hmmmm.... Maybe because all the posters living in those countries were > afraid of being arrested by the "socialist thought police" if they > complained? > ;-) > > Goes to show that the extreme-right cultists are too blind to even look > at a best practices comparison. You might wish to tune in to Jerry Agar on WGN, some weekend. He emigrated from Canada, and has nothing good to say about the health care system there. My former g/f was/is Canadian, and though she raves about the healthcare system there, she has successfully avoided participating in it, in favor of our own system here. Now, she's a full citizen of Canada. She's got the option to participate at will, and spends more than half her time in Ontario. She's always come to the States for medical care. No exceptions. A lot of people say a lot of things. For a lot of reasons. Their actions, however, often belie their truth.
From: SMS on 20 Sep 2009 03:49 Ray Fischer wrote: > Bill Graham <weg9(a)comcast.net> wrote: >> THE MORE YOU MAKE THE GREATER PERCENTAGE OF YOUR INCOME THAT YOU HAVE TO >> PAY. That's regressive taxation in anyone's book. > > As usual, graham is wrong on both counts. > > A "regressive" tax structure charges more for LOWER incomes. > > The very welathy can actually pay a LOWER tax rate because their > income is not always in the form of salaries. Sales tax, and the horribly misnamed "FairTax" are the most regressive because lower income people spend a far greater portion of their income on taxable goods than rich people. For a national retail tax to generate the same amount of money as the current income tax it would need to be set at about 25%, and that assumes that consumption (legal consumption) remains at the current levels, which it won't. Sales taxes are bad from another perspective, they encourage tax evasion, as occurs now with many on-line sales, and hurts local businesses. Also you can't deduct sales tax from income tax so a state like Oregon with an income tax high property taxes but no sales tax sends less tax money to the federal government than California with a high sales tax but relatively low property tax.
From: Miles Bader on 20 Sep 2009 04:28 rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) writes: > The very welathy can actually pay a LOWER tax rate because their > income is not always in the form of salaries. Ah.. that must be why the repubs are forever trying to get rid of capital gains taxes... -Miles -- Rational, adj. Devoid of all delusions save those of observation, experience and reflection.
From: mikey4 on 20 Sep 2009 08:30
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message news:4ab5b318$0$1646$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... > mikey4 <lakediver(a)dd..net> wrote: >> >>"John A." <john(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote in message >>news:d1tab5hf131605ho26snc94pnn779hibf2(a)4ax.com... >>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 17:28:54 -0500, "mikey4" <lakediver(a)dd..net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>"Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message >>>>news:4ab55678$0$1607$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... >>>>> mikey4 <lakediver(a)dd..net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>"Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message >>>>>>news:4ab51946$0$1630$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... >>>>>>> mikey4 <lakediver(a)dd..net> wrote: >>>>>>>>"Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> Neil Harrington <secret(a)illumnati.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>"David Ruether" <d_ruether(a)thotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> "Neil Harrington" <secret(a)illumnati.net> wrote in message >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Much the same with the latest ACORN scandal, which stunk so >>>>>>>>>>>> badly >>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>> even Democrats in Congress finally voted to stop funding ACORN. >>>>>>>>>>>> But >>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>>> never even heard about it from ABC, CBS or NBC, did you? >>>>>>>>>>> [Nonsense deleted...] >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> What was shown on tape from a *few* ACORN locations (but where >>>>>>>>>>> were the reportings of the ones that threw out these imposters?) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>What makes you think ANY of the ACORN offices did or would do any >>>>>>>>>>differently from the ones on tape? ACORN is rotten and corrupt to >>>>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>>>>core. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If that's true then it must also be true of the Republican party >>>>>>>>> given >>>>>>>>> the number of Republicans who have been shown to be lying, >>>>>>>>> philandering hypocrites. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Just like the lefttards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Never trust a man who gives online retorts with *no* substance. >>>>>>> mikey in <h8rvun$1hb$1(a)news.eternal-september.org> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>Snip away ray >>>>> >>>>> Run away, hypocrite. >>>>> >>>>> It's always so easy to argue against you rightards jut by throwing >>>>> your own words back at you. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>ok got it, which post are you referring to? or can't you post the >>>>entire >>>>text here. >>>> >>> >>> The message ID is h8rvun$1hb$1(a)news.eternal-september.org >>> >>> If your news reader can't get you to the article using that, try this: >>> >>http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/browse_thread/thread/16c602542978b515/51ec3250dbeab29b?hl=en&q=#51ec3250dbeab29b >> >>Thank you John for posting the link, the only part that post that is me is >>the header. > > mikey tries to deny hos own words. > > Nothing but a rightard coward. > > -- Sorry to disappoint you once again ray. What is under that header are pieces of several different posts, none of which are mine. |