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From: mikey4 on 19 Sep 2009 14:32 "Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message news:4ab51c73$0$1630$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... > Bill Graham <weg9(a)comcast.net> wrote: >><stephe_k(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >>news:h916ml$lne$3(a)news.albasani.net... > >>> Well I was pissed watching GWB spending BILLIONS on a war while giving >>> MASSIVE tax breaks to the wealthy. I was pissed watching him do NOTHING >>> other than watching the economy fail. Were you? Some of us didn't just >>> "wake up" because a republican wasn't in the white house. If Obama had >>> been handed a healthy country and done this, I'd be pissed right there >>> with ya, but that isn't what happened. >>> >>> Stephanie >>I still don't understand about these, "massive tax cuts to the wealthy". >>the >>last time I checked, the more money you make, the greater percentage you >>have to pay, .....that's what the tax tables in the form 1040 tell me..... > > That's the sort of ignorant thinking that gets rightards into trouble. > > There are many ways the wealthy get to pay lower taxes. Here's one: > > Long-term capital gains and dividends aren't taxed as regular income. > It's a flat 15% even before you find any deductions. So, if you own a > ton of stock that pays you $250,000/yr in dividends then you pay no more > than 15% of that as income tax. If you are given $100,000,000 in > stock by the company and you sell it a year later, you pay 15%. > > If you earn $150,000 as straight salary then you pay about twice as > much. > > -- >and if you are ray and have little to no stock you pay little or nothing. if you are ray and sell your house you get a free ride on the first $250,000, i believe. might even be more now that Obama is the prez.
From: mikey4 on 19 Sep 2009 14:35 <stephe_k(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:h936hj$lcl$3(a)news.albasani.net... > mikey4 wrote: >> <stephe_k(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:h916ml$lne$3(a)news.albasani.net... >>> mikey4 wrote: >>> >>>> People are pissed because "they" have finely woke up to the fact that >>>> the "government" is out of control and has been for a very long time. >>> Well I was pissed watching GWB spending BILLIONS on a war while giving >>> MASSIVE tax breaks to the wealthy. I was pissed watching him do NOTHING >>> other than watching the economy fail. Were you? Some of us didn't just >>> "wake up" because a republican wasn't in the white house. If Obama had >>> been handed a healthy country and done this, I'd be pissed right there >>> with ya, but that isn't what happened. >>> >>> Stephanie >> >> My point here Stephanie is that this entire mess is a result of *both* >> parties screwing the pooch for *years and years and years*. The >> republicans win by a land slide and they *think* they have a mandate, >> they don't, people were sick and tired of what the dems were doing. The >> dems win by ands land slide and well, you finish the sentence. >> They have us right where they want us, squabbling about this party did >> that and the other party did this. >> News flash, BOTH PARTIES are doing US.!!! >> >> > > > Did I ever say I was a democrat? There are some republicans I am OK with > too. Overall I think NONE of them are representing us. I guess I just feel > Obama has my interests more at heart than GWB ever did. > > BTW GWB won by the smallest margin in history yet claimed a "mandate". > Not the first time around. Obama has only Obamas interest at heart. Wait and see.
From: tony cooper on 19 Sep 2009 15:29 On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 19:57:03 +0200, Rol_Lei Nut <Speleo_Karstlenscap(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >tony cooper wrote: >> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 18:36:03 +0200, Rol_Lei Nut >> <Speleo_Karstlenscap(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> Bill Graham wrote: >>>> If I were a professional house breaker, I would go to some country >>>> where no one is allowed to own a gun. That's just good common sense. >>> Unfortunately for you, those are the countries where neighbours are >>> friendly and look out for each other.... >> >> Countries like, say, Scotland? >> >> "A United Nations report has labelled Scotland the most violent >> country in the developed world, with people three times more likely to >> be assaulted than in America. >> >> England and Wales recorded the second highest number of violent >> assaults while Northern Ireland recorded the fewest." (2005) >> >> >> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article568214.ece >> > >I've never held the UK up as an example, as in many ways it >follows/emulates the US... >That is unfortunately (Yob culture) why I would have serious >reservations about living there. >But I have similar or worse reservations about living in the U.S. (apart >from a very few places). > >In most (the vast majority) of Europe, volent crime rates are a fraction >of the U.S. (and U.K.) ones. You're back-pedaling. You made the point that countries where private ownership of guns is not allowed being safer. The UK is a country where gun ownership is largely curtailed. Yet, violent crime is rampant in the UK. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
From: mikey4 on 19 Sep 2009 15:42 "Rol_Lei Nut" <Speleo_Karstlenscap(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:7gui5fF2ra1ptU1(a)mid.individual.net... > Rol_Lei Nut wrote: >> Bill Graham wrote: >>> >>> "SPAM.WATCH" <fart(a)thefreakspeechsore.com> wrote in message >>> news:h8b588$irb$1(a)tioat.net... >>>> USA is both the third largest nation, and yet is still a third rate >>>> nation. >>>> > And by the way, where I live I don't feel the need to own a gun to defend > myself (very little violent crime), I pay a pittance for what is probably > better health care than BG has and, and, and... (the list could become > *very* long!) I have lived in WA, Portland OR, NYC, spent a lot of time in the close in LA area and now Houston, the only thing my hand guns have seen is the shooting range; hell I don't even have a carry permit.
From: Rol_Lei Nut on 19 Sep 2009 17:41
mikey4 wrote: > "Rol_Lei Nut" <Speleo_Karstlenscap(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:7gui5fF2ra1ptU1(a)mid.individual.net... >> Rol_Lei Nut wrote: >>> Bill Graham wrote: >>>> "SPAM.WATCH" <fart(a)thefreakspeechsore.com> wrote in message >>>> news:h8b588$irb$1(a)tioat.net... >>>>> USA is both the third largest nation, and yet is still a third rate >>>>> nation. >>>>> >> And by the way, where I live I don't feel the need to own a gun to defend >> myself (very little violent crime), I pay a pittance for what is probably >> better health care than BG has and, and, and... (the list could become >> *very* long!) > > I have lived in WA, Portland OR, NYC, spent a lot of time in the close in LA > area and now Houston, the only thing my hand guns have seen is the shooting > range; hell I don't even have a carry permit. > > A few places within the same country... Is that supposed to be impressive?!!? |