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From: ray on 9 Apr 2010 22:57 On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 19:13:45 -0700, nospam wrote: > In article <829nslF2hjU2(a)mid.individual.net>, ray <ray(a)zianet.com> > wrote: > >> >> Half a netbook for over twice the price - what's the point? >> > >> > it's not a netbook, nor is it half one. >> >> You're right, of course, it doesn't even have half the capability of a >> netbook - though it does cost over twice as much. > > since it's not a netbook, how can it have half the capabilities of one? A laptop is not a netbook either - it has all the capabilities of one and more - but in a larger form factor.
From: C J Campbell on 9 Apr 2010 22:57 On 2010-04-09 15:28:48 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> said: > On 08/04/10 7:44 PM, ray wrote: >> On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 16:09:40 -0700, RichA wrote: >> >>> Wait for HP to release its version. No USB port Apple? Are you THAT >>> paranoid about content control?? >> >> Half a netbook for over twice the price - what's the point? > > There are several points: > > 1. $15 or $30/month data service, with unlimited service for half of > what Verizon and AT&T charge for 5GB on a laptop. > > 2. An apps store filled with low cost games and other content. > > 3. 10 hours of battery life, something no laptop or netbook can match. > > 4. An attempt to expand the market share of the iPhone OS. > > Bottom line, despite the iPhone's success, it still is far behind the > two dominant mobile phone OSes in terms of market share, and Android is > growing at a much faster rate. Apple needs to quickly increase market > penetration of their mobile OS before Android can dominate. That's why > they're finally coming out with a Verizon version of the > iPhone--ignoring the largest U.S. carrier, that has the largest and > fasted 3G network, is no longer going to work because Android devices > will fill the void if Apple doesn't act quickly. Largest? Maybe. Fastest? Definitely not. In many areas, Verizon's 3G creeps along at a rate barely better than AT&T's Edge network. It is all right, I guess, for Verizon's marketing people to cherry pick a couple markets and claim "fastest," but on any objective level it simply is not true. As for market share, one thing to keep in mind is how people actually use their phones. For example, iPhone's browser share of use is 64% in the US. That is, iPhone's browser gets used more than twice as much as all other phone browsers combined. What does that tell you about usability? Android's OS market share has come entirely at the expense of RIM and Windows. iPhone is hardly far behind the two dominant mobile phone OSes in terms of market share. The February 2010 AdMob put iPhone's worldwide (and, let's face it, the US is not the dominant market in Smartphones) market share of Smartphones at 50%. You cannot be 50% and be behind anyone, let alone two other OSes. Android was 24% and Symbian was 18% (down from 43% in February 2009). Android is gaining rapidly, but it remains to be seen whether it will continue to gain so rapidly in the face of iPhone 4.0. -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor
From: ray on 9 Apr 2010 22:58 On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 19:13:41 -0700, nospam wrote: > In article <829nu8F2hjU3(a)mid.individual.net>, ray <ray(a)zianet.com> > wrote: > >> On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 06:17:38 -0700, Mr. Strat wrote: >> > The iPad will outperform a netbook easily. >> >> That I've got to see! What about all the lacking capability? > > it has *different* capabilities. > > and why do you care? the ipad doesn't run linux. I'm more interested in what it CAN do than what it runs.
From: C J Campbell on 9 Apr 2010 23:00 On 2010-04-09 19:29:20 -0700, Doug McDonald <mcdonald(a)scs.jllinois.edu> said: > C J Campbell wrote: > >> >> Now, put Flash into Apple's multitasking scheme. See a problem there? >> Flash is precisely the kind of resource hog that drains batteries and >> takes up bandwidth that Apple is trying to avoid, and it insists on >> uselessly running even when it is in the background. I mean, really, do >> you need a banner ad running across a web browser over and over in the >> background, perhaps even trying to grab control of the speaker at the >> same time? > > Well, actually, yes, if you want the Web to function correctly. > > Flash is an absolute necessity for full web service, like it or not. > I hate the damn thing, of course, but sellers love it. > >> >> There is absolutely nothing that stops Adobe from developing a version >> of Flash that would meet the needs of the iPhone/iPad API. Yet Adobe >> does not do this. That is certainly not Apple's fault. >> > > To do so would require that the API allow an ap to keep running > completely in the background, if it wished, especially to do things > like run banners to attract attention. Does the API allow this? > > Doug McDonald Ah. So basically you think that an app should be able to cripple all other apps for its own special purpose of spamming you with ads while draining your battery and jamming your phone. No, the API does not allow that. Sorry. -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor
From: C J Campbell on 9 Apr 2010 23:03
On 2010-04-09 19:57:54 -0700, ray <ray(a)zianet.com> said: > On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 19:13:45 -0700, nospam wrote: > >> In article <829nslF2hjU2(a)mid.individual.net>, ray <ray(a)zianet.com> >> wrote: >> >>>>> Half a netbook for over twice the price - what's the point? >>>> >>>> it's not a netbook, nor is it half one. >>> >>> You're right, of course, it doesn't even have half the capability of a >>> netbook - though it does cost over twice as much. >> >> since it's not a netbook, how can it have half the capabilities of one? > > A laptop is not a netbook either - it has all the capabilities of one and > more - but in a larger form factor. Ah. So something that has neither the form factor nor the purpose of a netbook can still be described as being some portion of a netbook. Why I am I not following your line of reasoning here? -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor |