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From: Karl E. Peterson on 6 May 2010 16:34 GS wrote: >> It has been pointed out to me that MS also dropped NNTP support in Win7 >> (Outlook Express). -mhd > > Afaict: Windows Live Mail has a hybrid of Outlook Express, M$ Outlook, and > Live Messenger 'under the hood'. Seems that they just gave it a new face and > tacked on the Passport requirement. Doesn't require any special sign-on to > get news; -works same as OE <IMO>. It seems very similar, but I'm sick and tired of their games. In particular, I don't like that their readers will delete posts from the store when they expire on the attached server. Here's the one I've settled on, which is everything OE *could* have been, and more: http://www.mesnews.net/gb/chargement.php > As for the content of this thread: > I for one am most grateful to have been able to learn and grow in my VB6 > development endeavors through reading the posts in this NG. Y'all will be > sadly missed for sure. Please know that my sincere thanks goes out to so many > of y'all for the amazing amount of help your posts have been. You may not > know the extent of this since I tend to only ask Qs when I can't find answers > already posted here. > > Sadly, I feel I still have such a very long way to go yet and I fear losing > contact with many of you may be too much to bear. I hope a new location can > be established to keep Classic VB alive and well for some time yet. Just a > thought.., but how hard would it be for you, Karl, to host a forum on your > website? May sound daunting but your site is one of the reasons that I got > hooked on VB6 and so just seems to be the right place if your ISP supports > nntp. Anyway, -just a thought (however wishful it may be!). I'd like to, but I'm really not in a position to mirror usenet. (I'm not going to set up my own web forums, because I wouldn't have the patience to use them myself! <g>) I don't have a problem running a private newsserver, but turning it public just becomes a bit of an ordeal, I'm afraid. At any rate, I do think there are very viable options out there to continue this (and related) community. In fact, I'll probably try to get some linkage, and a little bit of commentary, going in a few places. -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org
From: Henning on 6 May 2010 16:33 "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> skrev i meddelandet news:%23IEFncV7KHA.4208(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Henning wrote: >> "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> skrev i meddelandet >> news:%23WbtAvK7KHA.3504(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> Henning wrote: >>>> "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> skrev ... >>>>> David Kaye wrote: >>>>>> "Larry Serflaten" <serflaten(a)usinternet.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> We would still need someone to provide 'free' access. I doubt my >>>>>>> provider offers NNTP, and from the sound of things, many other >>>>>>> major players are letting go also.... >>>>>> >>>>>> Eternal September provides free access. There are others as well. >>>>> >>>>> I just created an account with them, and all appeared to be going >>>>> well. Until I tried logging in. The credentials are being rejected. >>>>> Do you know if they're having problems at the moment? >>>> >>>> Same thing happened to me... I can login to my personal page, but not >>>> to the newsserver. :(( >>> >>> Yeah, I even logged in (on the web) and "changed" my password. No go >>> over nntp. >> >> Mailed their support last night (in europe), and today it's working. >> Guess I will get me some payed4 account at giganews, who have very long >> times hosting msgs, several years. For text only groups, the cheapest is >> good enough 5 GB/mo $4.99. > > Their servers did finally sync up, and I appear to be in. I think I'll > stick with free, for now. > > -- > .NET: It's About Trust! > http://vfred.mvps.org > Yepp, but this is what is the bait for me: 2509 Days Text Newsgroup Retention /Henning
From: Karl E. Peterson on 6 May 2010 16:38 Henning wrote: > "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> skrev i meddelandet > news:%23IEFncV7KHA.4208(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Henning wrote: >>> "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> skrev i meddelandet >>> news:%23WbtAvK7KHA.3504(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> Henning wrote: >>>>> "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> skrev ... >>>>>> David Kaye wrote: >>>>>>> "Larry Serflaten" <serflaten(a)usinternet.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We would still need someone to provide 'free' access. I doubt my >>>>>>>> provider offers NNTP, and from the sound of things, many other >>>>>>>> major players are letting go also.... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Eternal September provides free access. There are others as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> I just created an account with them, and all appeared to be going well. >>>>>> Until I tried logging in. The credentials are being rejected. Do you >>>>>> know if they're having problems at the moment? >>>>> >>>>> Same thing happened to me... I can login to my personal page, but not to >>>>> the newsserver. :(( >>>> >>>> Yeah, I even logged in (on the web) and "changed" my password. No go >>>> over nntp. >>> >>> Mailed their support last night (in europe), and today it's working. Guess >>> I will get me some payed4 account at giganews, who have very long times >>> hosting msgs, several years. For text only groups, the cheapest is good >>> enough 5 GB/mo $4.99. >> >> Their servers did finally sync up, and I appear to be in. I think I'll >> stick with free, for now. > > Yepp, but this is what is the bait for me: 2509 Days Text Newsgroup Retention On which server? At e-s, I show 6043 posts going back to 11/24/09 in this group. -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org
From: dpb on 6 May 2010 17:49 Karl E. Peterson wrote: > dpb wrote: >> Karl E. Peterson wrote: >> ... >> >>> I'm using MesNews these days. But I couldn't even log in with telnet... >>> >> ... >> >> I think now I recall that it did take a while from the initial receipt >> of account authentication e-mail before the 'bot updated the login >> registry database there...I'll bet if you try again today it'll work. > > Yep! :-) > Yeah, sorry I didn't recall that yesterday -- it came to me in the middle of the night sometime for some reason...as is per usual. :( BTW, I think most of the time if they can solve the issue w/o response they'll do so--in this case, of course, we know what the problem is now (after the fact). I don't know how their financial model works but afaict they do super job for a free service. I have in the past made a small donation but it's been a while; maybe this discussion is incentive to do one this year, again, too... --
From: Henning on 6 May 2010 18:08
"Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> skrev i meddelandet news:uU3qXwV7KHA.5848(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Henning wrote: >> "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> skrev i meddelandet >> news:%23IEFncV7KHA.4208(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> Henning wrote: >>>> "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> skrev i meddelandet >>>> news:%23WbtAvK7KHA.3504(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>> Henning wrote: >>>>>> "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> skrev ... >>>>>>> David Kaye wrote: >>>>>>>> "Larry Serflaten" <serflaten(a)usinternet.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We would still need someone to provide 'free' access. I doubt my >>>>>>>>> provider offers NNTP, and from the sound of things, many other >>>>>>>>> major players are letting go also.... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Eternal September provides free access. There are others as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I just created an account with them, and all appeared to be going >>>>>>> well. Until I tried logging in. The credentials are being rejected. >>>>>>> Do you know if they're having problems at the moment? >>>>>> >>>>>> Same thing happened to me... I can login to my personal page, but not >>>>>> to the newsserver. :(( >>>>> >>>>> Yeah, I even logged in (on the web) and "changed" my password. No go >>>>> over nntp. >>>> >>>> Mailed their support last night (in europe), and today it's working. >>>> Guess I will get me some payed4 account at giganews, who have very long >>>> times hosting msgs, several years. For text only groups, the cheapest >>>> is good enough 5 GB/mo $4.99. >>> >>> Their servers did finally sync up, and I appear to be in. I think I'll >>> stick with free, for now. >> >> Yepp, but this is what is the bait for me: 2509 Days Text Newsgroup >> Retention > > On which server? At e-s, I show 6043 posts going back to 11/24/09 in this > group. > > -- > .NET: It's About Trust! > http://vfred.mvps.org > > On Giganews.com. That 2509 days means they keep text group msgs fo 6.87 years!! For text only postings one needs only the cheepest $3/m 3 GB account. /Henning |