From: Leo on 6 May 2010 01:52
news.eternal-september.org works for me using Windows Live Mail and
authentication. I havent had to sign in with a Windows Live ID to post.
"GS" <GS(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> -mhd formulated on Wednesday :
>> Karl E. Peterson <karl(a)exmvps.org> wrote:
>>> The final insult they had left to deliver...
>>> Q: When will this transition be complete?
>>> A: Microsoft is closing newsgroups in phases and anticipates completing
>>> this by Fall 2010.
>>> Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Communities
>> It has been pointed out to me that MS also dropped NNTP support in Win7
>> (Outlook Express). -mhd
> Afaict: Windows Live Mail has a hybrid of Outlook Express, M$ Outlook, and
> Live Messenger 'under the hood'. Seems that they just gave it a new face
> and tacked on the Passport requirement. Doesn't require any special
> sign-on to get news; -works same as OE <IMO>. It appears that it also
> integrates Live Messenger and a bunch of other stuff that I have no use
> for, but as far as I'm concerned it's no big dif from OE. Maybe the
> Calendar has some value as it does in Mozilla's Tbird, but Tbird is
> probably the easiest (and free) replacement out there for OE.
> As for the content of this thread:
> I for one am most grateful to have been able to learn and grow in my VB6
> development endeavors through reading the posts in this NG. Y'all will be
> sadly missed for sure. Please know that my sincere thanks goes out to so
> many of y'all for the amazing amount of help your posts have been. You may
> not know the extent of this since I tend to only ask Qs when I can't find
> answers already posted here.
> Sadly, I feel I still have such a very long way to go yet and I fear
> losing contact with many of you may be too much to bear. I hope a new
> location can be established to keep Classic VB alive and well for some
> time yet. Just a thought.., but how hard would it be for you, Karl, to
> host a forum on your website? May sound daunting but your site is one of
> the reasons that I got hooked on VB6 and so just seems to be the right
> place if your ISP supports nntp. Anyway, -just a thought (however wishful
> it may be!).
> I plan to stick with VB for as long as I continue to develop Excel apps
> for clients. To be truthful, I was really miffed at M$ for the changes
> introduced in MSO12. so mush so that I actually started to move away from
> that platform and used VB6 and Farpoint's Spread as an alternative. That
> said, if Classic VB dies I probably won't go with M$ products anyway, but
> that depends how much longer I continue to work. (I turn 60 in July and
> I'm severely handicapped with ALS, they say my passion for my work is what
> keeps me going)
> Many of y'all have fueled that passion. I would be most upset if i didn't
> get a chance to say THANKS!
> Kind regards,
From: MM on 6 May 2010 02:07
On Wed, 05 May 2010 14:47:00 -0700, Karl E. Peterson <karl(a)exmvps.org>
>> I only have a free 1gb per month account with NewsgroupDirect.
>> (However, anyone can sign up for the free account, which is open-ended
>> and renews on the 1st of each month.)
>This the place? http://www.newsgroupdirect.com/signup/
>I don't see the free option?
Maybe they've discontinued it. But my free account with them is still
working (just tried it).
That's the route through which I signed up for my free account.
From: MM on 6 May 2010 02:10
On Thu, 6 May 2010 00:00:45 +0200, "Helmut Meukel"
>"Helmut Meukel" <NoSpam(a)NoProvider.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>> "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>>> MM wrote:
>>>> I only have a free 1gb per month account with NewsgroupDirect.
>>>> (However, anyone can sign up for the free account, which is open-ended
>>>> and renews on the 1st of each month.)
>>> This the place? http://www.newsgroupdirect.com/signup/
>>> I don't see the free option?
>>> .NET: It's About Trust!
>> Karl, try http://www.newsgroupdirect.com not the signup page
>Sorry, clicking "Try out for free" will show the signup page.
>When you there select "Sign up" then you find the free account,
>but it says there:
>Free Trial Terms
>Free trials are available to customers paying by US credit card only. Only new
>customers will qualify for the free trial period. Block accounts are also not
>eligible for the free trial. A small charge will be processed to your credit
>card to make sure that the card is valid. The free trial expires after 14 days
>or after 1GB of usage, whichever comes first.
When I signed up for my free account, they didn't require any credit
card (otherwise I wouldn't have signed up). Maybe I was lucky to get
the free account at the time, because it looks like they are going to
honour any free accounts created indefinitely.
From: MM on 6 May 2010 02:14
On Wed, 5 May 2010 18:54:59 +0100, "Mike Williams"
>"Larry Serflaten" <serflaten(a)usinternet.com> wrote in message
>>> Why don't we all just agree to switch over to
>>> comp.lang.basic.visual.misc on a certain date to be announced?
>>> You'd need a switchover date, and repeated reminders in here
>>> beforehand, so that people got the message. I suggest a
>>> switchover date of 1st June 2010.
>> We would still need someone to provide 'free' access. I doubt
>> my provider offers NNTP, and from the sound of things, many
>> other major players are letting go also....
>I tried some of the free servers, news.aioe.org and others, years ago and I
>was not very happy with any of them. Personally, when I used to frequent
>comp.lang.basic.visual.misc for a good few years some time ago I used Google
>Groups to do it. I know web based stuff is not the best for groups, but if
>you set up Google groups to display by topic it's not so bad. In fact I've
>decided to go along with MM's suggestion and move to
>comp.lang.basic.visual.misc on 1st June, completely ditching this group.
>That's what I'm going to do. Somehow, I'll feel much better moving of my own
>volition before the Micro$oft control freaks close it.
Hey! Good idea!
1st June, everyone! ------> comp.lang.basic.visual.misc
From: MM on 6 May 2010 02:18
On Wed, 05 May 2010 13:23:24 -0500, dpb <none(a)non.net> wrote:
>Mike Williams wrote:
>> I tried some of the free servers, news.aioe.org and others, years ago and I
>> was not very happy with any of them. ...
>I'd suggest giving them a go again before throwing in the towel
>entirely. I've been using new.eternal-september.org for over a year and
>don't see anything to dislike (other than retention period, perhaps, but
>one can always take other alternatives if need be for that purpose).
>There are also several quite inexpensive if not free newsservers that
>aren't but a few US$ or euros/year. Not entirely free, but certainly
I think I get an amazing deal from Astraweb. 180gb block for a one-off
payment of $25, which in English money is as cheap as chips (which is
what we call French Fries when George Bush isn't president). I've had
it for months and still have nearly half of it left. Other news
providers do similar block accounts,