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From: Phil Stovell on 14 Jan 2010 14:06 On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:58:05 +0000, Conor wrote: > Its shitloads. In Calc, there's shitloads of Exel functions missing and > there's sod all macro support. Are all Calc functions in Excel?
From: JEDIDIAH on 14 Jan 2010 13:24 On 2010-01-14, Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann(a)t-online.de> wrote: > > > Jordon wrote: > >> Gordon wrote: >> [deletia] >> Average users probably don't use pivot tables all >> that much but when the boss asks me who our top >> customers are and where their business takes place, >> I can give him an answer with a pivot table in about >> two minutes. That is, two minutes after the data has >> been pulled out of the database. >> >> No doubt about it, without VBA and pivot tables we'd >> be spending a lot more money to have something custom >> designed. >> > > Well, that all is fine and dandy. But nothing of it is something which > can't be done on OO too. > You do know that OO is as scriptable as MSO is, do you? > And that OO has pivot tables too? > > So if you want to share your "experience" why MSO is so important to you, > better make it with something which can't be equally done with OO ....what I am curious about is why he isn't doing this in the source db. -- ....as if the ability to run Cubase ever made or broke a platform. ||| / | \
From: Jordon on 14 Jan 2010 15:05 JEDIDIAH wrote: > On 2010-01-14, Peter Köhlmann<peter-koehlmann(a)t-online.de> wrote: >> Jordon wrote: >>> Gordon wrote: > [deletia] >>> Average users probably don't use pivot tables all >>> that much but when the boss asks me who our top >>> customers are and where their business takes place, >>> I can give him an answer with a pivot table in about >>> two minutes. That is, two minutes after the data has >>> been pulled out of the database. >>> >>> No doubt about it, without VBA and pivot tables we'd >>> be spending a lot more money to have something custom >>> designed. >> Well, that all is fine and dandy. But nothing of it is something which >> can't be done on OO too. >> You do know that OO is as scriptable as MSO is, do you? >> And that OO has pivot tables too? >> >> So if you want to share your "experience" why MSO is so important to you, >> better make it with something which can't be equally done with OO > ...what I am curious about is why he isn't doing this in the source db. Because I don't know how, don't want to learn and don't want to pay someone a fortune to provide that functionality. A cheap spreadsheet gets me what I want as fast as I need it and I'm good at it. -- Jordon
From: Rick on 14 Jan 2010 16:59 On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 07:47:44 -0700, Snit wrote: > Rick stated in post 47GdnWkNKaSnmdLWnZ2dnUVZ_uxi4p2d(a)supernews.com on > 1/14/10 4:47 AM: > > ... >>>> Why not? >>> >>> I would not go so far as to say it is not suitable, but I do not think >>> it intrinsically is the best product for most needs: it does not offer >>> as many features and has features not done was well (including ones >>> which are relatively common). Still, because of *external* factors I >>> can see (and have) recommended it to quite a few people - mostly based >>> on price but also for some who place value on the OSS principles. >>> You repeatedly post your link to a list of groups who use OpenOffice >>> as if that somehow shows something about the software... as if people >>> using it shows it has better intrinsic value. Your game is absurd >>> though... if mere counts of companies substituted for a sign of value, >>> then MS Office and MS Windows are *clearly* the best products in their >>> class by *far*. >> >> It apparently meets the needs of those using it well enough to keep >> using it instead of using other sofftware. > > And, of course, you say the same thing about Windows and MS Office - it > meets the needs of those who use it well enough that they keep using it > instead of other software. .... except that, for the most part, those people/corporations have switched TO OO.o FROM MSO or some other software. > >>>> I am sure there are some corporations listed here: >>>> <http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/ >>>> Major_OpenOffice.org_Deployments#Private_Sector> >>> >>> Such as? >> >> I do not believe any answer to that question will satisfy you. > > It is public info what companies are corporations and which are not! So what? I do not believe any answer to that question will satisfy you. > >> I think you will just throw some dissenting view of why it is being >> used at "X" corporation. So, if you truly want to know, go >> through the list. > > See how bad you are at supporting your claims - even ones where the > evidence you could bring up would be very solid if you would actually > try! Yada Yada yada. You want to know which corporations? Go through the list. And, AGAIN, if I were to name a corporation (or more) I think you will just throw some dissenting view of why it is being used at "X" corporation. -- Rick
From: Jordon on 14 Jan 2010 17:03
Gordon wrote: > Jordon wrote: >> I wasn't addressing OO, only Gordons claim that he's >> never seen anyone using scripts or pivot tables. > Well as I said, I've worked in several large UK corporations over some > years, and they just haven't needed to use VBA or Macros. It does depend > on the output from whaterver ERM system you are using - the less > sophisticated the more the user is likley to need Macros and VBA. > It's just my experience that these are few and far between - certainly > not sufficiently frequent to justify the wholesale use of MS Office... While I don't doubt what you say, understand that there are millions of people that work for business that are not "large corporations" that can't afford to have their own in-house systems designers. As far as "few and far between" goes, just open the door of your large corporation and look across the street at all of the small business. -- Jordon |