From: Eeyore on 29 Nov 2008 13:33
George's Pro Sound Company wrote:
> <0junk4me(a)bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > On 2008-11-29 bmoas(a)yahoo.com said:
> > >>> Totally avoidable with IEC 60309 connectors.
> > >>> http://www.mkelectric.co.uk/PDF/technical/COMMANDO_prod.pdf
> > >>> Impossible to mis-mate different voltages. Available in
> > >>>splashproof and watertight version. Single and 3 phase.
> > >> and godawful expensive.
> > Have never seen one of these.
> > >> If I had a big, portable distribution panel that I frequently
> > >>hauled out into a hotel ballroom or convention hall I could see
> > >>using an IEC60309, and I've seen a few of 'em in the US, but they
> > >>usually have an adapter that ends in camlocks, if they don't have
> > >camlocks in the first place.
> > My remote truck has camlocks, can handle 3 phase or 240 vac,
> > switchable for whichever is offered at the truck.
> > >Camlocs and tails is how its done. from county fairs to festivals
> > >to one off at the college multi use room
> > THat's what I've known for years. STill, if these
> > connectors are as foolproof as advertised (can't do pdf here
> > and have never physically encountered them) I would think
> > some would be adopting them.
> > HOw many folks in the u.S. are seeing these anywhere?
> The local college has them,(ip67) about 1000 USd for a mateing pair, and
> they are NOT rugged, several of the colleges are outof service haveing
> broken sleeves and or broken locking rings
> and the mating is so tight it often takes three people to do it
> the look like a great solution, aside from the cost and the fact they break
> on a regular basis
> so the short of it is they are junk
> I would NEVER base a touring PD around these POS things
> Ok for convention centers with unlimited budgets and idiots doing the power
> drops, but as a day in day out connector they suck rotten eggs
The 32A 240V single phase plug and socket used for the local venue's amp rack
And Farnell isn't the cheapest supplier. Not bad for a 7.5kW connection I
A pair of these is good for 22kW of 3 phase.
No danger of getting phases mixed up either.
From: George's Pro Sound Company on 29 Nov 2008 13:36
"liquidator" <mikeh(a)mad.scientist.com> wrote in message
> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> liquidator wrote:
>> > We don't send yiou guys 120 volt stuff then whine it doesn't sell.
>> Since only 12% of the world population doesn't use 220-240V it would be
>> silly after all.
> Just as silly as a British company building a product that doesn't suit
> US, or any other, market.
> Companies that do not deal with reality go bankrupt...
Humm I have not seen a 240 version of the studiomasters in the USA well EVER
could it be that eyesore speaks with a forked tounge?
he insists that everything must be 240 yet the consoles he designed for the
USA market are all 120
what's up with that?
From: Eeyore on 29 Nov 2008 13:39
> "Eeyore" wrote in message
> 50 bucks or whatever in pounds says my PC is 110 volt 5 rears from now.
50 bucks that it conforms to IEC60950 ! Probably today.
The official voltage is 120 btw. But I hardly expect that to change in the home
overnight. Enjoy being in that 10% or so that use ~ 120V (Japan for arcane
reasons is 100V).
From: liquidator on 29 Nov 2008 13:41
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> liquidator wrote:
> > The discussion was about a 240 mixer being a bad idea for the US market.
> > is, and Graham keeps on about we should change our electrical system to
> > him.
> It would be sensible for the USA !
I just thimk an intelligent but way overly intellectual B5rit is not the
best person to decide what is best for the USA.
Why don't you try to keep a British car manufacturer alive?
What have we, Rolls is BMW, Ford sold Jaguar to the India folks, maybe they
will have Studiomaster car stereos..
Don't get me wrong, I love my old MG. Doesn't run at the moment and spares
cost dearly, but I love it.
Kinda reminds me of women I knew with a lot of issues, at least they
But I do remember lots of discussions that came to either the Italians or
British making the worlds worst electrics...
My old Ducati was a bad as Lucas electrics were...
From: Eeyore on 29 Nov 2008 13:44
> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote
> > liquidator wrote:
> > > We don't send yiou guys 120 volt stuff then whine it doesn't sell.
> > Since only 12% of the world population doesn't use 220-240V it would be
> > rather silly after all.
> Just as silly as a British company building a product that doesn't suit the
> US, or any other, market.
Just the US market I expect. Since there is no console that matches George's
description on the Cadac site I couldn't even begin to comment on power
consumption. Incidentally all their products use a letter prefix plus 'series'
which doesn't tie up either.